Topic: Georgian? blue cut glass goblet help please.

[brucebanner]

I think this has some real age but know nothing about it.

It's beautifully cut and has wear to the base outer edge, it has a nice ring to it and the glass is about 6mm thick.

It's 7 1/4 inches in height, 4 1/8th inches across the rim and  3 6/8th inches across the base.

[Antwerp1954]

My guess is that it's Bohemian flash glass from mid to late 19th century. Anyone know better?

[flying free]

I think the French and the Russians also made blue on clear.  So those might be avenues worth searching in as well.
Just a note - there is nothing on the Sotheby's site for Russian blue overlay on clear like this - I've searched their entire online portfolio for Russian glass and also a fair proportion of their blue overlay glass full stop
There is also nothing I could see in the Hermitage museum collection either.

I've not seen anything like this searching recently for Bohemian Biedermeier pieces but then I haven't actually found that many blue on clear overlay pieces as a proportion of the total  I've looked at.
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[brucebanner]

I wonder why this rings like a bell, i have a few goblets the kind Antwerp i think is on about and they glow under UV but are as dull as anything when tapped. i have about 20 of these the rest are in storage, these i have picked up this year i think from Ebay or charity shops, i can't remember, i love the chunky cuts and weight of the glass.

[Lustrousstone]

Bell-like ring = lead crystal. I wondered if your goblet was Japanese from the swirls but all the goblets in my book have square bases

[flying free]

I've been keeping an eye out and wondering about this piece.
Does it have any wear on the foot?
Also, it's quite large for a goblet - I have a pink cut to clear quite chunky goblet and that's 6 1/2" and feels standard if maybe a tiny bit tall.  Yours is taller and has what appears to be quite a deep bowl?  And has that curious petal cut rim that no one would drink out of (appreciate that many intricate or pretty goblets are often just for show though) and is swirled.  So firstly I was wondering if it maybe was meant to hold cigarettes or something?  I know, a bizarre thought but it reminds me of a celery type thing in shape although perhaps not quite the right shape proportionately (stem too tall, bowl not deep enough etc).

I have also noticed that your goblet is cut to clear with the blue cut under the foot.  My pink to clear goblet is like this.  I can't find anything Bohemian like this.  On those I've found, the foot is drawn down from the stem and so the overlay is over the stem ( and cut through) and then flows down onto the top of the foot and is cut through on the top of the foot.  I have the blue over clear perfume that has blue cut through on the base of the piece but it's a different shape, early, and doesn't have a 'foot' as it were.

So I have now come across one swirled piece in blue - it's a vase in the Hermitage collection.  It's nothing like your goblet, but it is swirled(the same way as your goblet)- and has a petal cut rim as well with the same eight petals and is very thick glass.  It reminded me of this because I've never seen anything else like it.  It's dated 1898 after a drawing by I. Murinov.

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I'll keep an eye out anyway in case I see anything else

[brucebanner]

Hello M ,lucky it's still on a shelf, it's way to be packed away. There is a good circle of wear around the edge.