Topic: Black spills vase - Prince of Wales feather/crown decoration

[Anne E.B.]

At a rough guess, I'd say this black pressed glass spills vase could be Sowerby :X:  Also that the decoration is a commemorative design for a past Prince of Wales.
Am I 'warm'?  I can imagine I can see a peacock's head on the base but it's not definite.
The next thing after who made it, which Prince of Wales could it be?  Victoria & Albert's son Albert Edward who was created P.o.W in 184l or the son of Edward VII and Queen Alexandra, created P.o.W in 1901???
But then again, I could be way out on both counts :ooh: :wsh:

[keith]

Sure I've seen Sowerby pieces with that 'pitted' base decor' so I'd agree 

[Anne E.B.]

Thanks Keith
I've done a better image showing the detail better.  The 3 plumes of feathers rise from a coronet type shape.  Made in a three part mould. Lovely amethyst colour when held to the window - and not as dense as some black pieces I've had in the past where the amethyst could only just about be seen when held to a very strong light source.
Forgot to mention, only 3½" high.

[keith]

These are mine,also unmarked,I presume are Sowerby

[Paul S.]

Keith - your couldron thingy - assume it's not the one with the thistle in relief on the bottom of the inside.     Just a thought

[Anne E.B.]

Here's an old link regarding the cauldron http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,13939.msg89488.html#msg89488
Looks like the jury is still out, but it doesn't appear to be Sowerby.
I had a couple of these cauldrons in different sizes some year's ago and as far as I can remember, mine weren't particularly well made.  The seams were a bit rough/unfiished.

[Bernard C]

Why Sowerby?   I would have attributed this little vase to any of the North East and Manchester glassworks, of which I would have thought Sowerby was the least likely as so many Sowerby trade catalogues survive.

If it was a 19th century Prince of Wales commemorative / souvenir, then it has to relate to the future King Edward VII.   Possible dates were his marriage to Alexandra on 10 March 1863, the 25th anniversary of his becoming Prince of Wales on 8 December 1866, and the 50th anniversary on 8 December 1891.    A less formal event was his contracting typhoid in the winter of 1871, to great public concern.  There was much celebration when his recovery was announced.

Bernard C.  

[keith]

Paul,no thistle,presumed these were Sowerby from my early days of collecting,still much to learn it appears :pb:

[Paul S.]

Pix of commemorative pressed pieces showing the P.o.W. plumes/feathers, seem thin on the ground, and I can find only a couple of examples in my books.     Henry Greener produced a bowl and plate in clear glass (the bowl shows the classic spelling error of 'Wales's), and Davidson also did a clear glass plate of sorts.          Although not one of the celebratory occasions that Bernard mentions, these clear glass pieces were issued specifically to commemorate his Silver Wedding Anniversary in 1888  -  but no luck with a black spill vase.

It would appear that the pix from Anne E. B.'s link have disappeared, so hope people won't mind me adding some of my cauldron.        As Anne says, it appears that not all cauldrons are the same shape/design.       You can see the thistle mark and concentric cirlces on mine, and it may well be that as Keith's are without the mark, then possibly a different factory.