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Author Topic: Faceted paperweight with rose in pot  (Read 2168 times)

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Offline rocco

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Re: Faceted paperweight with rose in pot
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2015, 06:22:30 PM »
Totally agree -- I think it is a very nice weight, whenever it was made.

Having now read all threads in the paperweight section containing the words "Czech Republic", I am not much wiser.

There is only one weight on the board with a label "Made in Czech Republic", and that is an oil lamp.
In the other threads the items are merely attributed to be made in Czech Republic.

And I noticed that this term is used rather loosely here, sometimes for a timeframe from after WW2 up until now, sometimes from WW1, whereas IMHO it really should be used only for the period after 1993.

I am sure these attributions are fine and based on vast knowledge, but as my main focus in collecting is Czech(oslovakian) glass I am curious to find out more ;D

@marc: very nice, certainly some similarities. Let's see what the experts say. ;)

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Re: Faceted paperweight with rose in pot
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2015, 07:02:08 PM »
'Rococo!'just noticed,sorry Michael.

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Re: Faceted paperweight with rose in pot
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2015, 07:49:03 PM »
For the record, my "more modern" comment was, indeed, a suggestion towards 1993 onwards. No proof, of course, just a gut feeling.

But I will concede that this type of weight - and with those dark, "velvety-looking" leaves may well have been made in earlier years ("Czechoslovakian" or even previous "Bohemian"). However, Michael's example has six (or seven?) layers of closely set petals - which is something I don't recall seeing elsewhere. Maybe that is diagnostic of a period - maybe not.

Although there are several "similar-looking" weights in literature and web sites, without seeing them all with top, full side and base views, it is hard to say whether they are actually "the same" or just "similar". That's the trouble with these European "flower in pot" weights ... they have had a "similar look" for so many years.

And the faceting is equally hard to categorise. In Peter Von Brakel's book, there are drawings of 17 groups of "style of cutting" and each group has 2 - 6 variations, with many (or all?) of those relating to the pre-WWII years and no doubt still used in modern times.

Let's all keep our eyes open for examples with good provenance or at least with a label.

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Re: Faceted paperweight with rose in pot
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2015, 04:27:37 PM »
Thank you very much, Kevin -- great info! :)

I had somehow hoped that the rose design was less "generic" than the usual trumpet flowers, and thus easier to attribute -- well, obviously not. ;D

Considering that Czechoslovakian glass production from 1945 up into the 1990s is very well documented (especially thanks to Jindrich's great website), I have found relatively little info on paperweights made during that period.
I have looked through hundreds of issues of Czech. Glass Revue during the past years, and not noticed many paperweights, apart from those with a -- usually -- more modern approach to design, from companies like Beranek/Skrdlovice, Karlovarske Sklo, ZBS. (But maybe the "old style" weights weren't considered arty enough by the communist government to be featured in CGR).

But I am sure much more "retro" glass has been made after 1993, particularly for the growing souvenir market...

Just for the record: I counted the petal layers of my rose -- there are 6.

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