Topic: Can Anyone Help me Identify This?

[karelm]

"snip" I'm not sure I would recognise their own millefiori "snip"

I believe this to be a weight with some of their early canes on ebay:200137269652
(This one is not mine)

"snip  Chi weights (nifty name!) "snip"

My favourite new name is "Chirano" that was coined by someone here....sorry cant remember who... for a chinese weight with murano canes.  I have one or two and will try to post some pics later. (this is very similar:120147317776)
Kind regards,
KarelM

[glasstrufflehunter]

The first weight is typical of 1930's pieces. I have a few of them. The second is more recent with typical Chinese canes. Their color palette is more limited than Italian canes and the white reminds me of skim milk. Italian white is absolutely opaque. Italian canes are in general more detailed and crisp. Chinese canes look kinda mushy to me.

I would suggest studying pictures of stuff you know is Italian and stuff you know is Chinese. After a while you get to recognize them. I do not suggest Ebay because they have a mountain of stuff they call Murano that is Chinese even with Murano stickers. I've talked to sellers who think the Chinese stuff is new Murano and the genuine is old. Massive misinformation out there.

[Angela B]

Thanks for that info. I would love to see some of your pictures and I will put up some of mine. You can add pictures as attachments to a message on here now (new feature of this board).
Has anyone got pictures of Chinese paperweight(s) with murano labels? I've heard about these but never seen one with its label.
Have you also noticed a tendency for collectors to label any nice looking Chinese as Murano on the grounds that it IS nice looking? Or am I missing something - did they make Chinese-style paperweights in Murano at some stage?

[karelm]

Have you also noticed a tendency for collectors to label any nice looking Chinese as Murano on the grounds that it IS nice looking? Or am I missing something - did they make Chinese-style paperweights in Murano at some stage?

The made "Murano" weights in China, in other words they used Murano canes to make Chinese weights and as was mentioned by GTH some have labels.  To me the give away is the base that is normally ground flat, not polished in is not a perfect round shape. If you look at this weight you can get an idea of the base:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1569 towards the left of the base you can see an indentation or fault that is typical of the Chinese weights.
As to Murano: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3014 this would sell in a flash as Murano, with or without a sticker.  People want to make money and they believe Murano is worth more than chinese so they make a slight "error" in identification
(Angela, maybe we should split the last couple of posts off into a new post?)

[glasstrufflehunter]

I have some examples of obvious Chi weights with Murano labels but I saved them off of auctions I saw on Ebay so I don't think I can post them anywhere. All of the examples had Chinese canes.

Karelm: The canes in that pair of weights, while very tidy looking still look Chinese to me and not Italian. In the weight where you are showing the base, the canes have some resemblance to Fratelli Toso but they still look Chinese with that pale six petaled flower. They've stepped up their quality a bit by encasing it in white and red.

[karelm]

GTH: The edges of those canes I do say have a resembalance to the Italian ones with those fine coggs on them but, yes, the flowers dont look right.  Also if you look at the weight from the top:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1567 you can see the setup is out of balance or the glass is not balanced. (BTW these pics are some that Tigerchips uploaded for a different topic.
Kind regards

[Daniels_Glass_Items]

Stunning Chi Weight. What a lovely piece, I was browsing some the other day form an art glass dealer began with an S an they had some gorgeous ones of a Jellyfish inside the paperweight I think it was when I searched for anemone (or how ever you spell it) on google.. the prices where stunning too....

Thank you all for you help!

[karelm]

Hi,
I have learned not to place "live auctions" but in this case I make an exception.  These guys do not know what they are talking about and they are a species I hate, the ones that make their living out of overcharged postage!
Anycase, I believe this: 280142120071 is one of the best made Chinese weights that I've seen in a long time! For these guys to be selling them at 1c a go they must be made in the hundreds, if not thousands...but it does show how the Chinese are improving!
Kind regards,
KarelM
PS: mods please be gentle with my hate speech 

[glasstrufflehunter]

I've been watching those for quite a while. They know they have a product that looks great but they don't want to come out and say it's made in China so they just put up bunch of blather. They put the price they want to make in the shipping and list it with a penny opening bid. 29 bucks to ship that thing. Ridiculous but it is a very beautiful weight. I think I'm going to get me one next payday. 

Here's a Chi weight I found recently:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8133
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8134

Sorry about the lousy quality of the pics.

[aa]

Mouth blown?
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