Topic: New member - hello and some advice please Victorian cream,sugar

[cjones]

Hi - this is my first posting but I hope not my last. I have been a collector for many years but only in this last 6 months have I really started to collect in earnest - mostly Whitefriars and any other art deco. To make room for my new additions I have had a clear out. Most I have managed to identify but I am not so sure about these pieces. I believe they are Victorian but have not seen anything really matching it to be able to identify and value.
Your help will assist me in deciding whether I keep, take to the charity shop, or sell.
The photo isn't too clear - the pattern is ivy leaves. Condition except for 1 tiny chip on sugar bowl very good.
Thanks in advance

[chloe]

I dont know if you've seen this site before, but I've found it very helpful in id'ing pressed glass

http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/index2.html

ETA: Oh, I forgot to say hello!!!  I'm fairly new here but it's a fabulous & helpful site.  Enjoy!

[jsmeasell]

What are the dimensions of these pieces? I suspect they are "miniature" in scale, not the typical 4-5" tall cream jug and 6-7" d. sugar basin?

My wife and I have the miniature set in black, very attractive but no manufacturer's markings.

[cjones]

Thanks for a speedy response it looks perfect

[cjones]

Hi sugar is 3.5 " heigh - sugar 2.5 " high Thanks

[jsmeasell]

Same size as ours in black! We bought our set (10-12 pounds, as best I recall) just recently on Portobello Road.

There are other items with the "ivy leaves" motif. We have a large crystal celery holder, but again no mfgr's markings at all.

[cjones]

Thanks James that's really useful

[Sid]

Hello:

This nice little set can be found in cobalt blue, teal, black and clear in this individual size.  As well, there is a full size set of cream, sugar basin and celery vase.  I have found the first two full size pieces in cobalt blue, black and clear.  There is also a posy vase that looks like it matches this pattern.

[cjones]

Thanks Sid that's good to know. Do you know who the manufacturer was ?

[Bernard C]

Over the years I've seen this design attributed to more or less every British manufacturer, including little-known firms like John Ford & Co. of Edinburgh, A.M. Allen of Glasgow, and Edward Bolton of Warrington.   The difficulty is that there has never been a shred of evidence in favour of any of these assertions.   Indeed I am not even certain that Edward Bolton, in particular, actually made any pressed glass at all.

This pattern has the distinction of being my longest running mystery, as I bought a black sugar and cream in it during my first few weeks of dealing in glass, a long long time ago.

Bernard C.