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Author Topic: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?  (Read 4326 times)

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Offline Frank

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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 05:47:28 PM »
It is intriguing that such distinctive canes are not yet recognised... has Bohemia been ruled out?

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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2008, 06:34:08 PM »
It is intriguing that such distinctive canes are not yet recognised
Well, I'd have said I 'recognised' them as Murano  ::)  And since Lothar says they definitely aren't, I'm afraid I am bowing out!   :huh:  :-\
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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2008, 07:31:07 PM »
Hello Frank!
I am thinking like you.
The best idea for me till now is Bohemian.

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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2008, 09:21:48 AM »
They don't look like Effetre to me. The photos I've seen of Boh weights don't look like these canes.

They still look like Murano to me. I know both Fratelli Toso and Seguso included 'zig zag'(for want of a better term) canes in their pieces. I have another Murano piece I have not yet identified as to maker that also includes zig zag canes.
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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2008, 02:44:27 PM »
I also thiink Murano. A comparison to current day Effetre canes would be flawed if the item is 50 years old. We need to compare to Murano canes that are 50 years old. And in that regard I agree with everyone that it was made with Murano canes. In my expersience Murano cane designs have migrated very slowly, but many times that migration (ie change in designs) can be precipitated by world wars and the like where iron moulds would have been used for the war efforts. At any rate, if you had asked me the time frame of these canes I would have said second quarter 20th century based on the construction style. That certainly fits with the 50 years old assertion. And since everyone seemd to be saying Murano canes, except for the owner, I think we need to hear from the owner as to why she believes they are not Murano canes.

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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2008, 03:20:21 PM »
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... why she believes ...
Err, by Profile, Lothar is male, I believe :)
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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2008, 06:15:41 PM »
Allora sono mascile! E`vero!

Mea culpa!
Mea maxima culpa!
The enigma for me seemed to be resolved now, because 3 experts are saying: MURANO!
:hiclp: Bravo:glasstrufflehunter.
 :hiclp: Bravo:derek.
   :hiclp:And: I can`t believe it, but I have asked Kerstin Stammwitz ( a wellknown paperweight dealer in germany).
She says also : It is 99,99% MURANO!!!
But: where can I see canes like above which are verifyed (?) Murano?
Has anybody a picture for me?
Thanks for discussing and kindly regards.




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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2008, 07:11:21 PM »
Ahem  >:D

It is intriguing that such distinctive canes are not yet recognised
Well, I'd have said I 'recognised' them as Murano  ::) 

 :angel:

I thought some of the canes were a little like the ones in this green and white weight of mine, and some very like the white canes in this snow scene (complete with Murano label)   
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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2008, 08:12:02 PM »
Hello Leni.
O.K.: I am 61 years old.
Me eyes are not as good as before,
but I can see similar structures and similar forms and so on.
Please excuse me, I can not find, that one of the canes of your 3 paperweights are similar
to the canes of my item.
For me the are differnet.
Sorry.

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Re: Please help ID canes: French?Scottish?English?
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2008, 08:30:07 PM »
OK.  I said I though some of the canes were a little like.  You think not.

Good luck with identifying your item.
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