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Author Topic: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight  (Read 8154 times)

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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2009, 09:15:58 PM »
hallo anita & glasstrüffeljäger.
I think I have no chinese pwt in my Muranos.....  ;=)))
there are only two nice chinese "end of day" pwt about 1930/40 ;please see thebpicsbelow.
A larger pic of that paperweight with the black background will follow and Im quite sure about Murano not only because the sticker. There is the flat base, the "kröselgrund", the typical canes and shape...
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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2009, 09:19:52 PM »
here the murano pics.....

Could I see a larger pic of that paperweight with the black background? Also a picture of the base. I suspect that one may be one of the new Chinese lookalikes but it's hard to tell in that photo.

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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2009, 09:24:38 PM »
and again ....

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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2009, 06:52:38 AM »
How large is that paperweight? Is the base highly polished or is it not as shiny as the top?
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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2009, 10:04:30 AM »
it is a little one:
weight 110gr
dia 48mm
high 34 mm
the base is highly polished as shiny as the top...
believe me:
it has the characteristics canes from the time...
the usfull coulors....
it has the murano sticker....
it has the typical little scratches on the base
it has all attributes of an murano weight fro about 1960....
it was made in the typical murano way ( not totally exactly: come gli italiani)...
it looks like murano....
it is murano!
and not a new one...
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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2009, 02:48:41 PM »
Hi, both colors and sticker are modern - not 1960'ies.
There are a good number of paperweights made in China with "Murano" stickers, some of those stickers placed there
by Muranese businessmen, unscrupulous dealers etc.

There are also Murano cane factories who will sell to anyone, so you can get Chinese paperweihgst with authentic Murano canes.
Gentile in the US used Murano canes f.ex.

My gut instinct when I saw this was modern, probably Chinese.
Alexander
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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2009, 07:05:13 PM »
That's what my gut said too. Those green canes in particular made me wonder and the colours do look Chinese -except for one thing: That white cane near the edge does not look 'skim milky' to me which is typical of Chi. The white is more opaque like I would expect from Murano. The profile is also more like Murano than Chi. It's still possible it could be a mix of Murano and Chinese canes made in China or even Italian glass used on Chinese cane molds.

That sticker is definitely more recent. I do not see this as a vintage piece.

It's getting very hard to tell which is why, unfortunately, I steer clear of some modern Murano.
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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2009, 08:54:47 PM »
 ;D :D :) :D ;D
I am very amused about all that presumptions here......... :thup:

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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2009, 09:03:22 PM »
Perhaps some Murano workers have been out there training and helping to get quality up to standard. It is amusing that in this thread, http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,24677.0.html , we have a Scottish weight made in Murano.
The wheels of modern manufacture. And of course, 400 years ago, the very first glassmakers in Scotland were all Venetian. So it cannot all be put down to modern business methods. No doubt as production costs increase the Chinese will in turn outsource to Africa.

Ultimately, it comes down to collecting objects for their aesthetic appeal rather than a clearly defined origin.

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Re: Low-dome Millefiori Paperweight
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2009, 12:12:47 AM »
Ultimately, it comes down to collecting objects for their aesthetic appeal rather than a clearly defined origin.

Definitely! Which is why I have a Chinese double overlay egg with a nicely made pine tree inside sitting right next to a McDougall and a Deacons.
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