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Offline mrs vulture

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cut glass items?
« on: February 03, 2009, 04:05:03 PM »
 Hello,    I bought this pretty pair of things the other day. The lady in the shop had no idea what they are for. Everybody has been guessing their use but nothing seems right. Some people thought they were for some type of cards or napkins. Somebody suggested for olives and put the pips in the bottom, or toothpick holders and put theused ons in the bottom.  I thought maybe for cigarettes and an ashtray underneath but that sounds yuk!! They are about 4 and a half inches tall and the base is curved upwards. The pattern is clearer than the photo shows and one is slightly bigger than the other. Any ideas would be most welcome. Please see pics below. Thanks Cheryl.

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Re: cut glass items?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 04:29:59 PM »
hello Cheryl,
i´m not sure about their origin or age, but i´d definitely say they were meant for visiting cards.
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Re: cut glass items?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2009, 05:03:29 PM »
Good morning from sunny California. USA.
I’m no expert on cut glass, but back in the day when so many people smoked there was lots of items made for holding cigarettes for your guest. I would think your beautiful cut glass "could" be a holder and person ashtray.. It would be placed around the home for guest to enjoy a smoke along with their brandy.
Just more of a thought that could add keywords for a search.
Good luck.
Tim
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Re: cut glass items?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2009, 05:28:50 PM »
may we have a photo of the base, Cheryl, please? stem and base perhaps mould pressed?

tempted to agree both with Dirk AND Tim - the base speaks for Tim, the container speaks for Dirk  :huh:
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Re: cut glass items?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 06:53:57 PM »
Hello, Thanks for your replies so far, I've taken a couple more pictures for you. As you can see the stems are of slightly different sizes, one is slightly longer and thinner than the other. Hope this helps. Cheryl

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Re: cut glass items?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 07:46:15 PM »
as presumed, stem at least applied, base too? VERY EARLY IRISH?
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Re: cut glass items?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 07:49:07 PM »
very early Irish meant 18th century
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Re: cut glass items?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009, 08:19:16 PM »
I think the fact that you have two says they are individual cigarette holders. Visiting cards were just left in trays and wouldn't have been a standard size and were kept in little cases.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 09:36:33 PM »
Just one last note. Lisa looked at them and besides loving them very much, She feels the bottom foot would have held the matches and that would go alone with 18 century cigarette holders.
Lisa & Tim
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2009, 07:45:00 AM »
No, that can't see them being that old. Much more likely end of 19th century/first half of 20th century when cigarette smoking became popular and widespread, although I would go for 20th century personally, there's not enough wear. We need a cut glass expert  :)
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