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Offline Bernard C

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English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
« on: February 18, 2009, 04:16:24 AM »
See http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11415

This is new to me.   It seems to have more in common with the Greener wheelbarrow and Davidson wheeled boat than other wheeled novelties, but as we all know that's no real help with attribution.   Note the six straight spokes to each wheel, and much fatter pneumatic tyres.   Does anyone know more?

No marks, of course.

Relevant dates:-
  • 1893 – Greener wheelbarrow
  • 1894 – Davidson wheeled boat
  • 1895 – Michelin introduced pneumatic automobile tyres

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    Re: English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
    « Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 07:15:52 AM »
    Depending on how large it is you might try here:
    http://www.candycontainer.org/

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    Re: English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
    « Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 07:34:42 AM »
    Why English if unmarked? Why not American? They seem to have made every shape you never wanted in glass

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    Re: English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
    « Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 08:40:32 AM »
    Ivo — When I was measuring it, and Janet was jotting down my measurements, I said:  "I better do it properly in metric, so as not to upset Ivo."   So I did it properly in metric, just because we all love you, Ivo.   If you look at my link, it's there, unedited, in glorious b/w technicolor, specially for you.   And it was a real measurement, not a conversion, which would have been in parentheses.   So, Ivo:
     :love:   We all love you  :hug:

    Anyway, as you will see if you take another look, it's rather small for a salt!  ;D

    Christine — Agreed, and it could also be French, particularly as most of the early development of the automobile took place in France.   ... and in case you were getting jealous, we all love you as well.   :kissy:

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    Re: English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
    « Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 05:57:40 PM »
    yes but did you see the link I gave?

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    Re: English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
    « Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 09:57:59 PM »
    Vallerysthal / Portieux made a couple of cars.  So did L. G. Wright in the USA.
    neither one looks exactly like this.
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    Re: English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
    « Reply #6 on: February 19, 2009, 02:12:47 AM »
    Bernard:

    You were on the right track, it is British -  Burtles,Tate & Co. Here it is from a catalog page.




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    Re: English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
    « Reply #7 on: February 19, 2009, 10:45:20 AM »
    yes but did you see the link I gave?

    Ivo — Yes, and a good idea which I should have thought of, particularly as I once had in stock one of those sweet guns that initially I thought was an unmarked Avon until someone put me right.

    Dave — Thanks for checking.   I'm particularly appreciative of the time you must have spent on this.

    Sid — Brilliant.   Do you have a date or date range for that catalogue image?   I would be interested to know if the pneumatic tyre speculation had any substance.

    Which all leads to the $64,000 question.   Why the rarity?   This example has spent considerable time in the toy box, amassing at least four chips, four serious bruises, and other minor edge damage, proving its popularity.   It must have taken a great deal of effort by Burtles Tate to stop its sale!

    Thanks everyone for a 5 star investigation involving authorities from four countries in two continents and solved in less than a day.   I hope Dudley MBC Councillors take note.

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    Re: English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
    « Reply #8 on: February 20, 2009, 01:53:47 AM »
    Bernard:

    Sorry, no clue as to date.  This item is one of the Penny Lines if that is any help.  Do we know the time frame they were introduced?




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    Re: English pressed glass early automobile novelty c.1900
    « Reply #9 on: February 20, 2009, 07:21:08 AM »
    Sid — You have the advantage here.   It's the first time I have come across Burtles Tate's Penny Lines.   Where should I be looking?   Is it, by any chance, an example of the "treasure trove" of information to be found in Glassfax newsletter reprints, to quote your website!   Janet's brother (A. Stuart Maxwell) and sister (Sheena Maxwell) were evacuees, if that's an essential initial qualification for obtaining them, and below is the proof from the evacuees' wall of the Worsley Road Congregational Church Sunday School.

    I bet you weren't expecting that!   ;D

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