Topic: Bowls with cherub prunts/handles. One repaired with staple.

[Ivo]

That seems to be another piece from the same stable: foot formed in the same way, clear prunt applied and manipulated in the same way - so probably not from a different maker. For the moment I prefer to stick to Sheldon Barr's attribution....

[TxSilver]

I'll add a couple of pictures of a filigrana bowl to the mix. I noticed there is a difference in the foot of the bowls.

[Ivo]

:huh: The foot seems identical in all shown cases - blown and formed from the bubble to make a foot - so not applied separately.

[david31162]

Thank you for the replies and all the information everyone. It has been mentioned that there are different names or descriptions for the impressions on the prunts ..lion and cherub/baby. It looks to me as if there are at least two different types. Mine are all like Anita's with child or cherub faces, Ivo's appears different and does appear to be a lions head.
David

[TxSilver]

More confusion. A bowl like the one being discussed in on auction on eBay: #250410027290. The seller sites the Ruth Webb Lee reference and comments that one is on display at the Boston Sandwich museum.

[TxSilver]

I read a little bit on Lutz and think that it is quite feasible that he designed the filigrana bowls that are like mine. Lutz was born in St Louis, Lorraine, where he interned in their local glass factory. I won't go through his whole life, but he imported his knowledge of filigrana when he joined Sandwich. Ruth Webb Lee wrote about finding one of the cherub prunts in the shards of Boston & Sandwich. She wrote that similar bowls were made in England and Italy, but the prunts were different.

I still see differences in the foot (feet?) of the different bowls. I am more convinced that my bowl is Lutz and that the other bowls are from Italy or England. I believe the reticello bowl in Sheldon Barr's book is Venetian. I can't find anything that mentions Lutz doing reticello -- quite a difficult technique.

[Ivo]

I used diffrerent sources, Anita, and came to different conclusions. Lutz was specialist in lampwork, reticello, filigrana, millefiori and "candy-striped" glass - one of the few specialists in the US. His work is very much influenced by the Saint Louis style where he had his training before emigrating. His productive life in the US spanned from 1860 to 1904 - so there are plenty of examples in various musea around the country. In the Saint Louis style, quality is everything and unfinished pontils are unheard of.
 
The finger bowls we are discussing here do not ressemble his style, but are pure Venetian - from the colour, thinwalled form with optical effects, aventurine trim, the shape of the foot it is obvious that the glassmaker had a Muranese training, not a Saint Louis one.

The Sheldon Barr attribution still stands.  Salviati had 2 factories in Murano (one Smalti, one blown) glass, British financiers and retail outlets in Venice and London. There must have been quite a production at the time. He also sold products from other Muranese glass blowers in his shops.