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Author Topic: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip  (Read 3372 times)

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Re: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2010, 04:28:36 PM »
Thanks Christine,
That makes sense.....  I am beginning to believe that there are two decors here, and they may have historically been erroneously grouped together for a number of years as the same decor due to the similarity of overall look, color and shape wise.....

In looking closely at the Kralik example Steven posted, I do not know that I have ever handled a piece of that in my area.... but looking at images without the closeup of the surface texture, I may have assumed they were variations of the same decor...

This is actually quite interesting......  and the glue chip ID may actually be incorrect....

My earlier statement of "Absolutely glue chip by Kralik" appears to have a strong possibility of being "Absolutely" incorrect.....


We'll wait for images from Mac.

Steven,
As a result of this thread I was wondering if it would be OK to use your images on the reference website we are working on? If so, I would love larger examples if they are available. I think I would like to do a page on the comparison of these two decors if it turns out they are different. (which I think, IMHO, it will)

Feel free to contact me directly....

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Re: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2010, 06:56:50 PM »
The confusion may have arisen from the words, i.e., glue chip = glued on chips, rather than chips pulled off with glue. Makes better layman sense that way.

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Re: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2010, 07:48:40 PM »
Sorry - nothing to add, I just wanted to say that the photography on your blog is absolutely stunning  :hiclp:

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Re: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 02:08:22 AM »
Thanks Chole...I like photographing this stuff.

Thanks again for everyone's input. Looks like I am going to learn something here. I have posted a few details shots of the vase. It is definitely a textured gritty surface compared to Stevens which reminds me of frost on a window. I think we called it hoarfrost when I was a kid which of course caused plenty of giggles.

Anyway the pics are on my blog:

http://bohemianglasscollector.blogspot.com/

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Re: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2010, 03:57:00 AM »
Based on a comparison of the photos, I would  say that the two pieces are definitely different decors. The piece you have appears to be a  variation on overshot, although much finer in texture.... 

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Re: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2010, 11:05:37 AM »
Thanks Craig. It just occurred to me that I have another overshot piece, so I thought I would compare the two. I believe, or so I have been told, this would have been a variant on Silveria done by Kralik. This piece looks as if it would be in the same time frame.

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Re: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2010, 02:41:58 PM »
HI Mac, the two pieces look similar time frame to me also.....  but like I have observed, I believe this decor continued for a longer time frame than the Silveria Variant next to it. I am going to discuss this with Alfredo also and get his thoughts....  I will let you know...

Craig

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Re: Not Dugan - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik Glue Chip
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2010, 05:23:48 PM »
Mac, In looking at your blog again, I see that the piece is on there identified as glue chip. After reviewing images of both decors, my first impression was incorrect, and I am now certain it is an overshot piece and not glue chip.

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