just to continue this thread a bit longer, if I may, picked up this bird today which I first of all thought was possibly U.S. maybe Fenton or Indiana c. 1960. However, there is another identical on ebay which I saw this afternoon (and now can't find)) described as English about 1890. The modelling is really quite fine - unfortunately unmarked tho., and try as I might I can't find an example in my books on pressed glass. I think correctly it is described as 'opal vitro-porcelain' - yes/no?? I'm thinking either Sowerby or Greener perhaps, and does this date sound about right?? Anyone like to add any more comments, and thanks for looking. Paul S.