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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2006, 06:57:57 PM »
Thanks for the recap Peter, it was getting a little confusing :oops: .

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Marcus and I had thought at one time that there was a relationship beween them but the colours in Dellas are more muted and the flanges slimmer - but still solid, Della ?


Yes, solid.
I actually have two of these vases in different sizes.

As for #1.........I love it too. Thanks for the compliment. I am not sure what it is about this style of glass that attracts me. I think it must be the fact that it 'looks alive.' :)
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2006, 09:34:11 PM »
Hi

Peter thanks for your post - ref Della's #3 vase I see things clearer now.

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Marcus and I had thought at one time that there was a relationship between them but the colours in Della’s are more muted and the flanges slimmer

I agree totally and note on looking at more Chalet vases of this type link that the form including the flanges are more rigid and moulded looking than your lovely colourful Czech vases (you mention this).

I have to say that Chalet seem to have set out to emulate Murano and Czech glass, they have Murano type baskets and bowls and this piece has a definite resemblance to a Vizner design link  

I have some Altaglass Peter and agree it is not like Chalet - mostly glass animals? link  

I find this an interesting thread and am left wanting to know more about Chalet :shock:


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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2006, 11:20:50 PM »
"Yes, solid"  >Thanks Della just as well to have that confirmed while we were at it.

"I love it too" >Well if you ever fall out of love with it let me know !
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Adam
I quite like the pink Chalet you show
(eeek whats happening ? I dont like pink !)

"emulate" - good word
I was so tempted to use the c*** word but managed to restrain myself

Vizner design link > That is taking emulation too far !!  :o  OUTRAGOUS  :x

"left wanting to know more about Chalet" >
er like how they sleep at night ?
They certainly seemed to spread it around the globe ...
I was mildly surprised when I began to realise how much of it there is in UK given that we see so little modern US glass and Canada is not a low cost producer. But then we will import anything from anywhere.
Now, Della has shown us that it's in Holland too ! Where else I wonder ? :roll:

Now I'll have to buy a piece to judge the quality for myself  :wink:
Pete

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2006, 11:23:45 PM »
I've now got a couple of pieces I'm attributing to Chalet - both very similar to Adam P's beautiful green and blue one in shape but in different colours.  Whilst researching these pieces and reading up on Chalet I read somewhere that the reason they're often mistaken for Murano is because the Canadian government brought Murano glassblowers over specifically to set up Chalet Glass.  So in a way describing them as such wouldn't be totally inaccurate.

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2006, 11:28:46 PM »
I think that is true Pip

"Chalet were called Murano Glass Incorporated 1960-62" from A-Z fact file pp31)

I wonder if they brought in Czech designers as well :wink:


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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2006, 05:43:08 AM »
Hi,
Stop me if you think I'm being a wet blanket but, I want to flag up one area of concern, before people run to make Chalet attributions for their unknown pieces. One of the things we ask for on this board is the contributors location, which sometimes can help to eliminate possible glass-making countries.

If Della's piece is Chalet, I would expect it to be relatively uncommon-rare.
If Pip's are Chalet, it is possible they would be less than common in the UK also, despite the nature of importation within the Commonwealth.

Without some knowledge of importers, and who brought what from where.... and into which countries, much can be mere speculation.

Clearly family ties, visits from relatives living in Canada, accounts for some Chalet appearing in the UK, and elsewhere.

Anyone seen adverts for commonwealth glass importers? (Frank? Pottery Gazette 1960's???)

True, Chalet is becoming more common, as the diaspora of pieces from Canada to all parts of the globe through the international marketplace that is eBay.

I just think people should be more cautious about this, without first trying to find who, or which company/ies imported it, and in what quantities. Maybe the Canadian Embassy (trade section) in London might be able to help? I'll have a word with the contacts who used to be with Heppners (London) Ltd, and see what if anything. they might know.

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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2006, 09:16:24 AM »
Not heavily represented in 63 Gazette

Phillip Lazarus UK Ltd, London, agents for Owens-Illinois but also mentions Canadian table-lamps. Chalet were fairly small and might have been imported by a gift trade company or a large/specialist retailer.

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2006, 10:00:36 AM »
Hi,
I have contacted the Canadian Trade Commission, and am waiting on a response.
regards,
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2006, 12:18:31 PM »
I have emailed a Canadian Chalet collector / dealer asking him to join the board or at least contact me - he has a huge collection and I am keeping my fingers crossed.


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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2006, 01:10:38 AM »
Hi

I was out visiting a retro glass dealer today who knows a lot about glass and I bought a small version of Della’s #3 vase – Stephen (dealer) said he knew it was Chalet and showed me a load of mind boggling pieces he feels are Chalet, he has had some in signed (very few) more often with labels. So there I was in Glasgow, Scotland looking at what might be a lot of Chalet and thinking half of Scotland migrated over to Canada (I have several relatives) is there a connection :?:  :wink:

This is the vase that has been discussed, 4.5” high 380g approx weight

Now he had larger versions but I thought this would do for research purposes (£6.00)

That out of the way and trying to keep what Marcus said about ‘dangerous attributions’ in mind (nothing is definite here, I have one web contact and Stephen), others opinions may differ

11” long, 4” high, weight 1.3kg




8” across, 4” high, weight 1.6kg




Now from the website link I think my pieces (two above) can be seen, or shapes very close to them – the colours seem right.

If …. and I say If  these two pieces I bought are Chalet, they are good quality – the transition from one colour to another is perfect, they seem hand blown and are finished off nicely – ground and polished base.

Both bowls and indeed the vase (#3) show signs of age wear with a fine scratches to base, they feel 1960s, perhaps 70s

I hope this does not confuse the issue or give people wrong ideas, the glass was available and I bought to add to this debate – Stephen will call me if he gets labels or signed pieces in.

Thanks

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