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New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« on: September 21, 2010, 03:13:36 PM »
All I know is my wife brought it home from an estate sale caked with crud.  It cleaned up well and we don' think it's recently made.

What would you call the technique?  Any leads on the maker?

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Re: New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2010, 03:52:30 PM »
WMF, Ikora, I think.  
Does it have an iridescent finish? I'm not quite so positive WMF used that.

The technique of producing that broken sort of effect has several names, I believe an official one is "primavera".
It is produced by dunking the hot, semi-blown gather into cold water, which cools rapidly and cracks all over the surface. It is then re-heated and reblown to stretch out the crackled effect.

It was used by WMF in their Ikora glassware range, by Monart for the Cloissonne range and in Mdina by Michael Harris to create their "crizzle" effect and Isle of Wight Studio Glass, where it is also called crizzle.
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Re: New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2010, 04:26:17 PM »
Thanks Sue!  I'll look deeper with those ideas.

It does have an iridescent finish. 

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Re: New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2010, 04:30:42 PM »
Hi Buck and Sue!
I´m quite sure it´s not an Ikora piece. Any structures wether produced by dipping into solutions of metallic
salts or by moulding or / and dipping into powders would have been cased afterwards. Ikora pieces also have
a hot-formed rim (except the lamp-bases of course).
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Re: New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2010, 04:38:02 PM »
 >:D

Perhaps it was the burying of it in all the crud for a long time which caused the iridescence??????????

(That's how Roman and other really, really old glass gets it's finish, but I don't know how long it actually takes. WMF Ikora is Art Deco period.)

I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about WMF Dirk. I did have a little doubt.  :-[
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Re: New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 04:41:06 PM »
Aww, Sue ... no need to  :-[...   :kissy:

I´ve seen a few on ebay.de over the years with different colour of the basis glass and always cased
with white, foamy crackle - luckily I´ve got one in uranium.  :)
Some further examples here:
http://www.glaskilian.de/Krakeleeglas.658.0.html
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Re: New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 06:42:13 PM »
Thanks for the links Dirk!

Ahh, so maybe Bohemian '20s but probably not Loetz   ;D

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Re: New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2010, 06:57:11 PM »
This is tin crackle a technique extensively used by Leerdam and Maastricht in the late 1920s and 1930s. I agree it is not WMF - but only able to tell you what it is not....   

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Re: New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2010, 09:34:57 PM »
I did look at some Leerdam and Maastricht glass but didn't see anything very similar.   I did see some tin crackle that is similar to some other glass I have and really appreciate the post. 

I will add that the whitish areas are coarse and rough feeling.  So far the closest combination of shape and texture I have seen online is via the link in the post by dirk.  That site assume theirs was Bohemia (Czech)
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Re: New vase - don't even know what to call the technique
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 10:56:53 PM »
Reminds me very much of "Barak" glass which was marketed here in Australia.

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