WMF stopped making glass in 1984, after 100 years. After that they outsourced all glassware to Zwiesel - and I think they still do. Even if Zwiesel is producing in Turkey and Poland, they also produce in Germany. We're talking about table ware, NOT Ikora which is a special range of art glass from the 1930s. After Wiedmann, the man responsible for Ikora, came back from imprisonment in France some time in 1948, 1949 - they tried to revive the art glass operation at WMF but it was short lived. He left for Glasgralhütte, and the old firm stopped art glass altogether.