Topic: Charity Shop Find Today ID

[chriscooper]

Normally a general is rule is to presume if it's got a pontil mark it's been attached to the rod for the rim to fire polished, more time consuming but a finish that is less prone to damage as opposed to just being cold ground on a wheel then either polished or not.
But don't quote me  'cos I know nothing  :wsh:
Chris :sun:

[shugdens]

Normally a general is rule is to presume if it's got a pontil mark it's been attached to the rod for the rim to fire polished, more time consuming but a finish that is less prone to damage as opposed to just being cold ground on a wheel then either polished or not.
But don't quote me  'cos I know nothing  :wsh:
Chris :sun:

Lets not get on to pontils were on rim terms at the moment..

[langhaugh]

Definitely not Lindstrand or Landberg. I'm with bOBA.

David

[shugdens]

Definitely not Lindstrand or Landberg. I'm with bOBA.

David

I'm going with my first hunch as Beranek, it was the rim & caseing that made me think Scandi. Just need a Czech expert to confirm which it is.

[chopin-liszt]

A pontil is a metal rod. It leaves a pontil mark or a pontil scar on the glass. There's a fabby list of accurate glass terms Christine posted here just recently. (downloadable pdf)

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,37775.0.html

[Jindra8526]

Sue has written:
So how would you describe a rim which was heat-finished?
Moulded, (in glass terms) means made in a mould - which precludes being free-formed.

This isse make me troubles as well.
In Czech we have term "hutni sklo" similar to German "Hüttenglass". I still had not found proper English equivalent - oftenly "free formed" is used.

By definition is hutni sklo glass made and completely finalised hot in furnace. (bottom cutting is allowed).
It does not eliminate moulds, for hutní sklo are often used wooden moulds, but also steel for, the piece can be completely finished in mould or can be after removing from mould manually modified and shaped.

So for us hutni sklo means that piece wan not after blowing and cooling refined it means cut or engraving.

Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz

[Jindra8526]

Two issues,
the piece is not Skrdlovice one, so it mean not Beranek (Emanuel, Bohuslav, Jindrich, Rudolf, Jan, Jiri).

The piece can be Czechoslovak, but I would like to see more pictures to decide.
bOBAs explanation is correct let we say Novy Bor glasswork - it was always the same factory - Borocrystal, Borske sklo, Crystelex only names had been changed. The latest one Crystalex was concern that covered in 80ties also Moser, Podebrady, Svetla, Krasno and Vrbno glassworks.
Just a little notice for Bohemian glass collectors - Novy Bor is Haida.

Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz

[chriscooper]

Lets not get on to pontils were on rim terms at the moment..

Just trying to be helpful as there is  a connection...
Chris

[Jindra8526]

Every good turn has to be penalised accordingly, Chris 

Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz

[shugdens]

Just trying to be helpful as there is  a connection...
Chris

It was ment sarcasticly & I had a smile on my face when I wrote it, it was meant as more of a dig at me getting all my terms mixed up. :ha:
This is why I was initialy put off joining this MB I think its quite easy to find insults & put downs where there are non intended. It happens when people are sharing knowlage & experience on the internet. I think the correct net term is 'getting flamed' but dont quote me on it.

I'm scared of putting my next 2 Czech finds up now  :24:

I was thinking Beranek from the link provided & from two definate Beranek pieces I sold over Xmas, one to a user of this group so I hope I was right on that one....