Topic: Pair of Sven Palmqvist vases??? ID

[shugdens]

Found this pair in a charity shop today, I thought Orrefors & Sven Palmqvist at once. Both have a ground rim.
I got these two & what I think is a 'Bimi' flower vase for a steal because all three have a chip each, the tall one has a rim chip & the small one a base chip.

Sorry about the photo quality I was at my mothers & used my phone while it was still light.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/WhiteRose1649/DSC00210.jpg

[langhaugh]

The fact that they were not signed would make me wonder. They don't strike me as being very much like Orrefors or Sven Palmqvist. Perhaps it's the colours (are they really that shade of blue and green in the photograph?) that's putting me off. I'd be interested to hear why you think Orrefors.

David

[shugdens]

The fact that they were not signed would make me wonder. They don't strike me as being very much like Orrefors or Sven Palmqvist. Perhaps it's the colours (are they really that shade of blue and green in the photograph?) that's putting me off. I'd be interested to hear why you think Orrefors.

David

Well i've had 2 kraka vases unsigned. The photo dont do them justice. There heavy & cased. Theres age to them, the rims are ground.

I think I may give up on glass & just go back to rough atribution. I cant get anything right on here & the huge quantity i deal with makes it difficult.

[chopin-liszt]

 :thud:
You can't give up on glass!

But perhaps you might be better off giving up on chipped or damaged bits - I think they only sell well-ish, if they're very scarce and/or very, very old.
A very, very good way to learn is to go to one of the big fairs and handle the pieces and chat to other glassy folk.
There is no substitute for actually holding and feeling it, and looking at it from all different angles.
Not only that, but you'll get to meet a load of us...... or is that what's making you think about quitting?

In general, reccession aside, glass has yet to find it's proper place in the art world, but it's well on its way and it's getting there, slowly, but surely. As a dealer, you can't afford to ignore it, you just need to learn more about it.
 :thup:

[shugdens]

:thud:
You can't give up on glass!

But perhaps you might be better off giving up on chipped or damaged bits - I think they only sell well-ish, if they're very scarce and/or very, very old.
A very, very good way to learn is to go to one of the big fairs and handle the pieces and chat to other glassy folk.
There is no substitute for actually holding and feeling it, and looking at it from all different angles.
Not only that, but you'll get to meet a load of us...... or is that what's making you think about quitting?

In general, reccession aside, glass has yet to find it's proper place in the art world, but it's well on its way and it's getting there, slowly, but surely. As a dealer, you can't afford to ignore it, you just need to learn more about it.
 :thup:

I do fairs, Newark Swinderby & have a stall at a weekly antiques market, I've been full time since 2005. To be honest at one place I buyother dealers  ask & come to me as an authority on glass. I'm nowhere in your league but i'm doing something right. :24:

These vases are hevy, old quality pieces. theres a lot of work in them. if there not orrifors there something similar.

i'm gona clean them up & sell them on my stall as an unknown scandinavian. I'll get £30 for them, maybe I should wait for a proper Id because I think these are a very good vases from a top maker. Just the work on the rims alone shows this.
I'm meating up with a member of this group in the next week or so so I'll take them with me.

I've had a bad week, I may have to Ebay some of my better pieces.

[chopin-liszt]

I really meant one of the specialist glass fairs - The National or Cambridge.

Another really good way to to get to grips with glass better is to watch glassmakers in action - find out how it's made, learn about the different techniques used and how difficult a piece would be to make.
 
From that, you will be able to judge the skill needed to make a piece you find, and be able to understand what is good and what isn't so good.

[shugdens]

I really meant one of the specialist glass fairs - The National or Cambridge.

Another really good way to to get to grips with glass better is to watch glassmakers in action - find out how it's made, learn about the different techniques used and how difficult a piece would be to make.
 
From that, you will be able to judge the skill needed to make a piece you find, and be able to understand what is good and what isn't so good.

i've got the eye for it & know most of the techniques, its the id's that are getting to be a problem. its only for ebay realy I neen exact id's. I enjoy having a good descusion on atributing pieces on a stall, but that dont get the good prices i need at the moment.

The rims of these two have been 'sculpted' & ground into shape quite hevely. the edge of the base has also been ground & polished. i'm still out on these  :usd:

my problem with some fairs is as a religious Jewish person I'm unavailible from friday eve to saturday eve & sundays i'm out scouting boot fairs from 6 till 12

[glassobsessed]

If you get the chance more photos might help pin down an id, they look as much Czech as they do Scandinavian to me.

John

[shugdens]

If you get the chance more photos might help pin down an id, they look as much Czech as they do Scandinavian to me.

John

I'm going to do that tomorow, they are filthy, i've got them soaking in a citric acid solution to try and shift the muck from inside at the moment.
There certainly an intresting pair. I'll photo the rims close up as well.

[langhaugh]

Shugdens:

I hope that I wasn't too discouraging. I wasn't saying that they weren't quality glass; in fact, they're something I'd consider buying. But I don't think they're Palmqvist. I know you never say never in glass, but Palmqvist pieces are invariably signed. Czech seems a good place to look.

David