Topic: blue and white plate

[ju1i3]

Can anyone tell me anything about this plate please? It appears to 3 layers of glass: clear, then white then blue on top . The blue appears to be cut away to reveal the white and clear underneath. It did have gilding around the edge which is worn but it also appears to have faint traces of a pattern (shown in the detail picture) either from further gilding or would they have affixed a pattern to help them cut and then peeled it away? It's 18 cm diameter.
(excuse me if this is wrong or sounds silly, I don't know anything about this type of glass)

thanks

[Lustrousstone]

I think there should have been even more gilding or possibly coloured enamel. Any template used (if such a thing was used) would have used washable fixative. What surprises me is the coarseness of the grinding on the central "hole".

[chopin-liszt]

 

Shock is a bit more accurate than surprise, Christine - it's a complex piece - 3 layers, cut and polished beautifully - then........  :thud: in the middle!

Perhaps it had a centre bit that is missing - and the rough grinding would have helped stabilise it :huh: :huh: :huh: (pure conjecture  :pb: )

[rosieposie]

Hi Ju1i3,  I have never seen this type of glass before,  but have just found these pieces that might throw a little light on yours....different colours, same technique.
http://www.antiquetrader.com/article/antique_glass_lamp_antique_auction_julia/

I'll keep looking though. :sun:

[Lustrousstone]

It's not an uncommon technique and is still in use today. It could be Bohemian/Czech or even English. The phrase you want is cut to clear, though this covers anything upward from one coloured overlay.

[flying free]

It's gorgeous!  I think maybe something must have stood in the middle perhaps?  Although I still can't think why it would be rough ground really.  Maybe a goblet was meant to stand in the middle of it, something like that, maybe it broke off and it's been ground flat?.  Is it completely flat in the middle enough to support something being placed there securely?

[Ivo]

the only surviving part of a three tier cake stand.

[flying free]

 :hiclp: Ivo - you must be right.  How lovely though that someone loved it enough to keep the remaining piece.
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[rosieposie]

Does that pre-suppose that the 'hole' in the centre is a proper patent hole and not just cut to clear glass Ivo??

I have seen the flash-cut to clear glass like the blue and the ruby glass, I've even sold some Bohemia pieces,  but I hadn't ever seen this two layer type cut in round patterns,  so I thought I was quite clever finding some similar pieces......I'm much better at critters!

[flying free]

I imagined the glass stem of the stand y bit would be attached there Rosie as part of the base i.e be quite a thick glass stem and  attached by glass to the bottom plate rather than being screwed onto it - were you thinking it was screwed on? Hmm that puts a different complexion on it.
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