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Author Topic: Early of Isle of Wight?  (Read 1586 times)

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Offline goyjus

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Early of Isle of Wight?
« on: November 06, 2011, 12:45:54 PM »
I think this piece is blue and white swirls.

The reason I'm asking for a second opinion is that it has, what I'd describe as, a lumpy/irregular smooth/polished pontil.

Definitely not a coachbolt or a flame.

Does this give any indication of date? There's a lot of age-related scratching to the base too...
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Re: Early of Isle of Wight?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 01:32:57 PM »
A picture of the base would really help.....  :thup:
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Re: Early of Isle of Wight?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 01:53:39 PM »
Yep. Sorry. Here's two. Cheers Sue
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Re: Early of Isle of Wight?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 01:57:53 PM »
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Unfortunately once it's a flat pic on the screen I really can't tell what on earth the surface might look like - it just looks completely smooth with colours to me.

Can you try taking a pic from an angle, so any lumps or dips show via reflections?
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Re: Early of Isle of Wight?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2011, 02:20:51 PM »
Just about to head out. But will try again later.

The thing is, there's not a lot to focus on. It's just kind of an irregular blob.

The second pic is probably the better one - the blob just above the centre of the pic...
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Re: Early of Isle of Wight?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2011, 02:35:02 PM »
Sounds as if it's maybe been a broken pontil-mark - heat-finished to make it smooth.
Not without the realms of possibility for early IoWSG.
Attenuated bottles tend to have broken pontil marks - the coach-bolt pontil mark was quite literally just that. There happened to be a coach-bolt lying around the old buildings where the studio took up residence (with alterations, obviously!), and it just happened to be there when Michael Harris was looking around for something to stick in the base. So he picked it up and stuck it into a blob of glasss over the broken mark.

Things were experimental in the early days - things there are still experimental - they're always trying to push new boundaries forwards.
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Re: Early of Isle of Wight?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2011, 05:55:28 PM »
Sounds about right to me, Sue.

I was hoping I might find a signature amongst the usage scratches on the base if I looked for long enough... I didn't
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Re: Early of Isle of Wight?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2011, 11:31:30 PM »
That does not look like blue and white swirls to me. How big is it and does the rim have a blue trail around it?

To my eye, there is too much white in your vase and the blue is not right either, I would expect it to be concentrated into thin bands that criss cross around the vase.

This is the only photo I have of this blue and white swirls globe vase at the moment.

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Re: Early of Isle of Wight?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 10:25:52 AM »
Thanks for this, John.

Will check on the points you mention this evening.

But, if memory serves, the piece is about 5in high. From the photo, it doesn't appear to have a blue trail around it. The colour 'bleeds' vertically down the rim. Is this significant?

Is it possible the piece is a second? Might that explain the colour/design discrepancies and the unusual base?

It is an Isle of Wight shape, right?
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Re: Early of Isle of Wight?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 01:28:37 PM »
Could just be a variation in what is simply an experimental "range" in the first place.

There is blue around the rim, and the bleeding effect is one I've seen in some pink and blue swirls pieces.

And I've seen Tortoiseshell with tight brown bands and with wide, diffuse and bubbly brown bands....
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