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Author Topic: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions  (Read 1665 times)

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Offline Pinkspoons

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Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« on: November 30, 2011, 01:41:35 PM »
I picked this up because I was sure I'd seen the effect before (and because I rather like it - increasingly a secondary reason!), but I can't seem to track it down again.

It's a vivid blue glass with a cased spiraled opaque pink 'netted' effect. Encased in the underside is a mass of choppy-looking gold/silver inclusions... although they look too thick for common-or-garden silver-/gold-leaf, so could possibly be a substitute (they'd been raiding snowglobes!), or they were just very generous with the gauge of precious metal.

The sides and rim are quite textured where they've been formed, giving it a kind of 'antique' look.

The base is polished flat with a peculiar pontil-within-a-pontil finish. Plenty of wear to it.

Size is 95mm wide, 50mm tall.

Thanks for looking.  :)

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Re: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 02:15:03 PM »
Bengt Orup?

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Re: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 02:46:06 PM »
Nothing similar leaps out for Orup in my books or through Google. I also can't think of gold/silver/mica inclusions being used much in Scandinavian glass (although, out of Denmark, my knowledge gets decidedly patchy).

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Re: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 03:49:16 PM »
I had a square bowl with glitter inclusions id'd as Orup Johansfors 1960s - but unable to trace a pic right now, sorry.
Zwiesel used this technique as well, but you piece looks a bit thick for that.

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Re: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 03:55:39 PM »
Nothing to be sorry for.  :)

I'll have another crack at it with the Orup information.

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Re: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 06:53:27 PM »
I see the Orup connection somewhat, but it looks more Murano to me, a mezza filigrana variation of Scarpa's bowls, although the ground out pontil mark is a little bit of an anomaly.  Orup's similar work, at least the stuff I've seen, tends towards broader threads of glass. Below is a piece I have.

As an aside, I've not found much on Orup apart from this site. http://www.bengtorup.se/glas/  Any suggestions for how to broaden my horizons?

David


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Re: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 05:53:04 PM »
I considered Murano when I picked it up... but wasn't too sure. From the examples I've owned and seen, even in quite chunky, objects the inclusions tend to be a lot finer and less like, as Ivo says, 'glitter'.

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Re: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2011, 12:02:13 AM »
Was tellyhopping a few days ago, and spotted this lamp base on Bargain Hunt... same technique, same chunky inclusions, very similar colours.

Don't know if it jogs anyone's memory? No one on Bargain Hunt knew what it was (quelle surprise), and it got derided as 'possibly mass-produced rubbish from Venice... with an English look about it', or other meaningless words to similar effect.

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Re: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 12:35:22 AM »
Nic, there's been two lamps on here the same decor - I'm pretty sure - tentative id as possibly Czechoslovakian.  I'll try and find the threads for you - I'm sure they are the same.

thread here
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,38037.msg209214.html#msg209214
Nigel B had one as well, possibly a different colour - can't remember if that is mentioned in the thread and didn't read it before linking.
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Re: Blue dish with pink 'netted' effect and gold/silver inclusions
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 02:09:06 AM »
Gosh, thanks - excellent memory. And I'd read that thread before, too!  ::)

They're very very similar in execution and colour, aren't they? Mystery Czech it seems to be, then.  :)

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