thanks Anne - small candle holders like this seem to be uncommon - at least when compared to the vast array and quantity of sticks. Thought I had it once or twice, there are some quite similar pieces in the catalogues, but no joy still I'm afraid. They do glow well, as you can see - in fact if you went to bed with one in your hand and a u. torch in the other, you wouldn't need the lighted candle. :24: :wsh: