Topic: Apart from Webb's Iris did any other British maker do gold/amber iridescent..

[keith]

I've around 30 pieces of Webbs,some marked some not but they all have polished pontil marks,I have yet to see one that's not

[flying free]

yes it's a curiousity.  Are all your pieces you refer to, Thomas Webb rather than Webb Corbett?  any dating before 1910?
thanks

[johnphilip]

Many firms left the pontil unpolished if the item had a foot like a trumpet bell , there was no need to polish as it wouldnt touch down and it saved costs . It was not so quick and easy to polish inside the foot i believe . I have several Whitefriars items with trumpet bell foot and cut of pontil un-polished .

[flying free]

John, yes I agree.  The piece in question does not have a domed foot, but the centre is raised and the pontil mark is so neatly snapped off you would barely notice and very smooth, feels as though it maybe slightly firepolished or something.  Looks a bit like a Graystan pontil mark. if you know what I mean.
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[keith]

All T.Webb and all 20th century apart from a couple of 'Burmese' pieces the only Webb Corbett I have are paperweights

[flying free]

Thanks Keith.
Thomas Webb item here without polished pontil mark
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1817.msg12260.html#msg12260
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[keith]

Oops :pb: must have been an off day at the factory

[flying free]

Bernard did say it was very neat though Keith and photographs of pontil marks are notoriously difficult to show what it really looks like on the piece.  It is  nothing like the vase I'm looking at to be honest.
One more question then, does anyone know if Richardson's ever produced anything like Webb's Iris gold/amber finish and did they make glass with a snapped of pontil mark?
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[Lustrousstone]

Wouldn't a picture be easier M? "It" might not even be English!

[flying free]

no photos as it hasn't arrived yet, but the finish is the same as these these links


http://www.decorative-antiques.co.uk/displayItem.asp?IID=8700

http://fineart.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=623&lotNo=30393

and probably the same as this one although I suspect the photograph on this one has bleached out the iridescence and the finish
http://www.museum.bristolblueglass.com/iris-glass-vases-ca-1880s/

the shape is most similar to the bristol museum piece, but the foot is not ribbed it is plain, it has a ring around the foot as this one does, the vase body is similar and ribbed but my example has a ruffled rim.

And the overriding difference to all of them is that it has a snapped off pontil mark and no marking for Webb's Iris.  I can find posy vases attributed as Webb's Iris but with no marking and no reference to a pattern book number, but I cannot find examples with a snapped off pontil mark.

I will post pictures as soon as it finally turns up.
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