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Author Topic: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate  (Read 4882 times)

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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2012, 09:29:51 AM »
as requested m - here is a side picture (plus view of the backstamp) of my finger bowl.     

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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2012, 09:39:18 AM »
Interesting Paul, I'm not sure that is the same either  :-\
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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2012, 09:35:36 PM »
Looking for  a reference for Leni's vase I happened upon the cut glass piece in CH's 20th Century British Glass again. On page 31 there is a decanter on the right that has the little blossoms on and they don't appear (although I find it quite hard to see detail in the pics) to have the second row of circles round the middle.  It also has a scooped line around the bottom with three cut leaves 'holding' the drapes up in a similar way to my bowl (although the draped line appears to be the other way up to my bowl).  On page 30 plate 56 vase on far left appears to have (although again difficult to see if there isn't more on there as well as the leaves) the same cut leaves waving out from the centre as  on the foot as my bowl and Paul's footed bowl marked MADE IN ENGLAND.  I'm not trying to 'make' my bowl S&W but thought these were relevant observations.
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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2012, 10:47:36 PM »
apologies, that was a slightly garbled post as being interrupted by children - I meant that I happened upon the Stevens and Williams pages in the book, so all those references above are discussing Stevens and Williams pieces.
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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2012, 06:56:22 PM »
I have just been looking up various topics on Webb's and a member has commented on another thread that Webb's signed their items from 1907. 
If this is true then either a) I have a rare unsigned piece of Webb's post 1907  or b) it could be a Webb's piece from earlier than 1907 which would mean Thomas Webb & Corbett Ltd or c) my footed bowl and underplate are not Webb's.
Question - Is the shape of the bowl with the widely flared rim, a shape that Webb's or Thomas Webb made? 
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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2012, 10:26:19 PM »
quote     "and a member has commented on another thread that Webb's signed their items from 1907"..........if you're referring to Thomas Webb m, then I believe we have discussed here before the fact that this factory sometimes signed, and sometimes didn't .......just to confuse us all.     I certainly have pieces that are, and some that aren't. :)

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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2012, 10:29:45 PM »
mm, before I saw your reply Paul I realised I may have been confused again.  I was trying to find the reference as you replied.  I shall find it an check.
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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2012, 10:35:23 PM »
 :-[ yes I believe though the reference only said Webb, that  reading through again it was referring to Thomas Webb signing all from 1907.
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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2012, 05:03:25 PM »
Even a smaller company such as Tudor still produced quite a lot of various design in intalgio engraved glasses. Here are three intaglio glasses all marked Tudor made in England at the base. All the base engraved pattern are also completely different as well. None of the these are sign by Jack Lloyd (the man for intaglio at Tudor).
m. So it is very difficult to find out who made you bowl. Could be Tudor or the two Webbs unless somebody got the same pattern and marked.
Unlikely to be S&W l think your glass is likely to be 1950s.
Above infor just my personnal view.
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Re: Engraved or cut? antique? clear footed bowl with underplate
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2012, 07:09:12 PM »
Thanks Ming, your bottom one looks the most similar I think.
It seems like finding one exactly like mine will not be possible then - it's a minefield out there.  Perhaps it will just sit on the shelf like my blue vase  ;D
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