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Author Topic: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark  (Read 2730 times)

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Offline goyjus

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Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« on: May 08, 2012, 07:54:18 PM »
Can anyone help me date/identify this glass?

It has a raised nipple type design and has a rough pontil with a dome of glass over the top.

Any info appreciated...
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Re: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 07:56:00 PM »
Here's the base with domed pontil...
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Re: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 09:45:48 PM »
Webb Bulls Eye glass, circa 1920s ish gets my vote.  :)

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Re: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2012, 09:50:23 PM »
Hi. Cheers Greg. I wondered if it might Webbs. I have two of them - but they are not uniform in shape/size. So that's why I thought they may be earlier. Any thoughts?   
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Re: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2012, 09:54:48 PM »
Just thinking about the date, I not 100% sure to be honest, although I think they were produced over quite a few years, some marked and some not. I presume they don't have any faint markings underneath..?

I think there are a few other examples on the board from memory. Sorry I can't help further with a more accurate date.

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Re: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 10:11:59 PM »
No worries, Greg. I've looked for a mark but can't see any trace of one.
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Re: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 11:20:23 PM »
I'd have said Webbs until recently,if I remember right there was something similar a while ago on the board,I have quite a few pieces of 'bullseye' and none have bases like this one,they all have polished pontil marks,although not all are marked so I'm not so sure about yours ??? ??? ;D

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Re: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 04:49:32 AM »
Anthony — until quite recently there were always major trade buyers who did not want their glass marked.   This applied even to prestigious designer signature ranges, with roughly half of Keith Murray's and roughly 10%–20% of Clyne Farquharson's unsigned (my guesstimates).   If you didn't conform, you didn't get the order — so you conformed.

A significant proportion of Webb's Gay Glass was unmarked, probably mostly for this reason.   Other reasons include poor administration at stock control / order processing, and the acid on the stamp going dry as the girl worked her way down the row of inverted glasses.

Greg — I would have thought a little later, circa 1930s or possibly postwar.   It's quite a Deco shape.

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Re: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 06:31:01 AM »
They don't look quite regular enough and too pointy to be Webb's bullseye. Can you feel where the nipples are on the inside just ever so slightly?

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Re: Georgian? Victorian? Glass with domed pontil mark
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 09:43:08 AM »
Thanks for this Christine. I will check on the 'nipples' this evening!

In the meantime, I found this on another site:

http://www.legacyantiques.co.uk/index.php/glass/british-glass/thomas-webb/pair-of-thomas-webb-bullseye-design-cocktail-glasses-in-amber.html
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