Topic: Mystery divided dish - ID = Walther (Bad Driburg) 'Komet'

[Anne]

I'm stumped by this divided dish and would appreciate some thoughts as to who, where and when please.

It's clear glass with yellow bits - the stars are yellow, the immediate area around the stars is frosted, and some of the edging pattern is yellow - all else is clear. Size is 31.5cm x 19 cm x 4cm deep.

There is no indication of maker anywhere, small amount of wear to base. I cannot see any mould marks anywhere either so am not sure if it's cut or pressed, although I suspect pressed. The pattern cutting/pressing is soft and rounded not sharp and pointy.

Any ideas welcome - I'd just like to have an idea of where it originated - I found it lurking filthy dirty in a pile of glassware in a charity shop and took pity on it. Cleaned it up and it's lovely, so will be a nice addition to my serving dish collection.

Whole dish: http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-836
Star detail: http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-832
Rim detail: http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-833
Sections:  http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-834

(Click all the images to view larger ones).

[Anne E.B.]

There's a similar looking one here, described as Bohemian/Czech c30s.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7390874358

[Anne]

Oooh thanks Anne, that looks just the same. I hadn't figured it to be so old. It really is nice... had to rescue it from my mum who took a fancy to it yesterday! (Not bad for the £1 I paid for it was it? :wink:  :lol: )

[Anne E.B.]

Nice one Anne :!:  

[paradisetrader]

IMHO The similarity with the item shown on p32 of  "Popular Glass of the 19th & 20th Centuries" (Miller's Collector's Guide) by Raymond Notley is in technique and origin only, not age.

Both items are "stained" by brushing selected areas with Silver Nitrate to give the amber color. Notley says "Although this item is not cut, it gives the impression of being produced by an expensive double layer cutting process"

The style of the item Notley shows is high Art Deco from the 1930's. Yours looks much later Anne.

It's quite possible, if not likely that both were made in Czechoslovakia.

[Anne]

Thanks Peter, I was puzzling over how the colour was done - I'd not connected it with the picture in the Notley book as the colour there is much darker. Mine is more yellow.

As I inferred above, I'm surprised by the 1930's date also -  but I can't pin down when I think it was made. I'm still pondering it. Czech doesn't surprise me at all, and I'd agree this is a possible option.

The irritating thing is that I am sure I have seen similar items online somewhere - a whole website full of them but I cannot find it again - even in GlassLinks.  :roll:  I shall keep hunting.

[Tigerchips]

Glass like that was shown on this board quite a while back. I remember someone saying it was French, unless I got the wrong end of the stick, or perhaps that was something completely different anyway.

If i'm wrong just pretend i'm not here.

[Anne]

Glass like that was shown on this board quite a while back. I remember someone saying it was French, unless I got the wrong end of the stick, or perhaps that was something completely different anyway.

Thanks TC. My initial thought was French or Belgian but I couldn't find evidence to support that thought, and I'm not sure why I thought that. :roll:

If i'm wrong just pretend i'm not here.

 :shock: Not a hope TC!  :lol:

[pamela]

Anne, it could be Walther Bad Driburg since 1951 as well :roll:

the white and amber glass combination is otherwise seen in ValStLambert, Belgium but quite a different production, style and age

IVO - please !?

[Anne]

Pamela, thank you, that gives me another avenue to explore. I had considered and discounted VSL for the reason you gave.

Before you posted I went and searched through your wonderful website to see if you had one similar, and in doing so managed to identify another item I found two days ago... it's a Brockwitz bowl - yours is pink, mine is uranium green but the same shape and pattern.  I'll add a picture as soon as I can locate the camera under all himself's clutter!  :wink: