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Author Topic: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?  (Read 2983 times)

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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2013, 05:10:47 PM »
Mike I have no mates I am a cantankerous old Bustard .... aint you noticed . Ask Sue and her Mates . ;D
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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2013, 05:28:43 PM »
Yes , I know  ;)

Thanks Rosie, Peter (& John  ::) ) very much for your comments , it would great to be able to restore the balance of this piece and it is worth doing, but quite a difficult  task it seems.

It would be interesting to know if it could be achieved in glass but I think resin would be simpler (& cheaper) perhaps ?

Ta, Mike.





 
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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2013, 06:40:25 AM »
Hi ,
        As I said in my post above , ceramics restorers will take a mould from the intact handle ,make a resin copy in the same colour and then attach it to the damaged part,the results I have seen with others in the past are most acceptable and most people would not be able to tell visually that it had been done , any attempts to produce a glass handle replacement is I am afraid  probably a non starter.

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                Peter.

Any form of hot glass process to attach a replacement handle is likely to result in further damage to the vase, so I would strongly advise against this. However, it would actually be possible to use a similar technique as described by Peter to create a handle in glass rather than resin by producing this in a kiln by lost wax casting. However, the cost of this is likely to be prohibitive. The glass handle would then need to be attached with an adhesive or resin.
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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2013, 08:41:45 AM »
Cheers Adam isn't that what I said ? I hope they do hot buns at Brum Peter . ;D ;) Loadsamonaaaayyyy.

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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2013, 08:52:28 AM »
 Hee Hee  ;D
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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2013, 09:04:53 AM »
I may have to come to Brum to witness this bun fight!!   ;D
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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2013, 08:06:18 PM »
Thanks All,

I'm going to start rereading 'Mould Making For Glass' by Angela Thwaites  , I bought it ages ago and found it a bit complicated , so I put it down . ???

Hope you all have a great time in Brum !..............

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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2013, 08:29:08 PM »
Resin and plastic are cxap ;D

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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2013, 06:46:03 AM »
 :)

I've had another idea with this ....

How about making a mould of the two green blobs (where the handle was once attached) and the curve of the glass vase around the blobs and then casing this in a silicon-based plaster. So in effect you end up with a copy of a section of the vase in a material that can stand the heat.

Then you find some glass of a similar colour and use that to free-form a handle similar to the other as you would if you were making the vase normally.

This could then be put in an annealing oven  and once cold the glass handle could then be removed from the silicon-plaster mock-up of the vase and stuck to the glass vase. Hopefully the ends of the new handle would then sit perfectly on the uneven broken bits on the green blobs.

Could this work ?

I'm concerned that a lost wax method would produce a matt finish which would be difficult to polish.

Here is a place near Bristol which sells all sorts to do the job !

http://www.warm-glass.co.uk/

Ta Mike  :D

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Re: Is it possible to have a missing glass handle made for this vase ?
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2013, 08:59:15 AM »
Correction.....should read... 'casting this in a silicon-based plaster....'

The only thought I have had about this idea is that the glass might not stick to the silicon plaster but is it possible to increase the silicon content of the mix just enough to get the glass to stick ?
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