Topic: Help!!!! hopelessly out of my depth with this vase

[chriscooper]

The first of 2 pieces that got my attention today not even going to embarrass my self with a suggestion of a maker at this stage though Italy and Germany were in my thoughts. To be honest I don't even know where to start describing the technique used though the webbing reminds me of a sort of controlled crizzle. I am going to shut up now and hope someone can lead me in the right direction
 

[chopin-liszt]

It might be the as-yet-unknown Czech maker whose stuff is often mistaken for Monart.
This is a lamp base, pics taken on a camera at antique centre. not very good.

See also this page of Frank's site. There are two examples of work from this unknown maker.
It is still listed there as possibly being Americal union glass - but I do know that HAS been discounted.
I can't remember who or how it was discounted, but it most definitely was.

http://ysartglass.com/Ysart/NotYsart.htm

As Frank said there, it is a maker who deserves recognition.

[flying free]

my first thoughts were the same as Sue's.
It's a bit of a strange (modern looking ) shape though and sort of doesn't quite fit with the era of the lamp in shape.  OTOH the decor immediately reminded me of the lamps as well.
One more to add to the list for id - interesting find
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[chopin-liszt]

Not only were the pics of the lamp base taken on a camera, it was artificial lighting.

Is there any age-related wear to the base?

That's a very good point about the shape - but if you also look at the trophy shaped thing on Frank's site - you'll see patches of purple - just like the one on this box shaped vase.

There really are not too many makers who used mica in glass.

[flying free]

oh yes Sue, you're right! thanks for reminding me to look again

The lamp or one similar, I'm sure was connected to one in a different colour  with a Czechoslovakia label so the  American link is dead.

It's just working out who the Czechoslovakian maker is for the lamps and now your vase Chris.

Also slightly off topic, something has caught my eye, the vase next to the lamp on Frank's site - It looks a similar shape to another net type vase I found when researching my lamp base, and it also has that same applied foot shape!
I need to go and do some  more research.

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[chopin-liszt]

oh dear - I'm getting muddled - I forgot to address my comments to the correct people!
(but you worked it out anyway, Flying-free!)

The combed vase next to the trophy shaped one is by the same unknown maker. That is the style most commonly mistaken for Monart - because of the combing and the mica.

I have had one of those - I gave it to my brother as his example of this maker, to have for his Ysart collection.
So I have been in a position of handling both styles.

I believe you are corrent - that it was somebody who had had a lampbase with a Czech label. Might it have been Nigel B.?
There was a thread about a lamp base the same as the one in my pic, a while ago.

[chriscooper]

Hopefully better photos taken in natural light 

[chopin-liszt]

 
It's pink and green with a purple splodge - but I'm stillabsolutely convinced it's the unknown Czech maker, often mistaken for Monart.

I can see age-related wear on the base.

[flying free]

looks like it's cased in amber at the bottom as well (another vague similarity with my lampbase)
mm, I wonder if the maker of my lampbase and the maker of these mica pieces will turn out to be the same
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[chopin-liszt]

The "amber" might well just be a combination of the pink and the brown wooden background...

but amber is the colour of the rigaree bits on the more complex pieces.