Topic: Possible fake P Ysart?

[w84it]

Now that the auction has finished, I feel able to ask if you feel the following is a fake or genuine.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Paul-Ysart-Vintage-Lampwork-Flower-and-Latticino-basket-paperweight-with-PY-Cane-/321253165596?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=0IRHncTPhV50IIrHlmUbU2U%252F1uY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

The size of the winning bid (not mine!) suggests a fake.  I can't make up my mind whether it has the dropped P cane or not.  And in the absence of Kev's terrific website, I'm lost.

Thanks

Keith

[tropdevin]

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Hi Keithy

I was pretty sure (sort of 99.5%) that it was a fake, and did not bid.

Alan

[flying free]

has something similar with those flowers on, been on the board recently and in question?

I'll have a look to see if I can find the thread.
Perhaps this one I was thinking of? Unfortunately the flowers don't enlarge any more to see the detail
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAUL-YSART-VASE-OF-FLOWERS-PAPERWEIGHT-/321115816617?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Inv8uf8oUVnjSZvxWdYcx1CaU%252Bo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
m

[Nick77]

Hi

Hmmmm I was pretty sure it was genuine but wasn't too bothered if I won this one but I put in a bid that I didn't really expect to be succesful,and to my surprise won.

  To me it didn't seem to bethe dropped Y, the cane formation of the PY looks correct the Y formed as a V with a straight down piece attached the fakes seem to be a long angled down stroke with a short angled piece attached.

The flowers conform to genuine ones I have had before, the only slight doubt I had is it's not too clear if the P is the correct colour and the spacing of the flowers could be better.

I'll let you know when it arrives.

Nick

[Nick77]

You know the more I look at it now, I'm not so sure it's right

Nick

[mildawg]

I'd vote fake.

[KevinH]

The weight is definitely one of the fakes. And so is the other one that "m" referred to.

The "dropped Y" version of the false "py" cane can look as though the colours of the "p" and "y" are both pink, but close scrutiny always shows the "p" to be a shade of orange (and sometimes quite yellowish). See the four examples below, showing variations in shapes and colouring (Sorry, but I don't have larger versions of those images.)

[Nick77]

Thanks all, yes I have come now to the same conclusion, it hadn't been marked as dispatched so I had asked the seller to confirm the colours but by then she had already posted it. My mistake there but I guess it will have to go back.

Nick

[stew2u2]

just a thought if the seller had just put py cane could you have sent it back as they would have described it right. but they have said it was a paul ysart cane they dont have a leg to stand on.
stew

[pooleandpaperweights]

No, you couldn't send it back.  Though if you say I want to send it back Paypal will automatically fall on your side and let you return it......

If someone has said it has a PY cane and it does, it's up to you to work out if it's Paul Ysart or someone else......