Topic: Whitefriars confirmation please.

[bat20]

Hi all,i have to admit to being disappointed when i picked it up because it is so light and there was no Scandinavian signature of any sort ,but after hours trawling the intoe i'm fairly sure it's Whitefriars soda glass midnight blue colour from 62,17cm ish ht it sits well and i like the form but i'm guessing not the sexy Whitefriars everybody is after,any thoughts many thanks.

[johnphilip]

I would give it a yes they also made a table lamp with a teak base for Heals in that Pattern I have one .
The Lamp is rare ish I only know of two Emmi has the other one .

[bat20]

Many thanks John.

[Anne]

Yes! I had one of these in amethyst. Like yours mine also had a pontil mark -and when I asked on W/f.com I was told that there were a few of these made in full lead crystal which are the ones with the pontil marks, whereas the later soda ones don't have that and they are much lighter. It's heavy, yes?

[bat20]

No it's light,interesting Anne, so the soda glass didn't have a pontil,i just took it for granted when something is mould blown it would have a pontil of some sort plus and i did find one described as Wf soda glass with a ground pontil ,did you ever find out who made yours.

[Anne]

That's all I can tell you about it really, the W/f.com people confirmed it as Whitefriars, and I listed it on eBay as such with a link to the site and it sold without any problems, so I assumed they were correct in what they told me.

The pics of mine are in my gallery if you want to take a peek - the info from the Whitefriars peeps is there also:
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pid=657 <-- vase
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pid=664 <-- pontil mark

Edited to add: all the dimensions are with the images too if you want to compare them?

[johnphilip]

I would think made from tother end , hence cracked of polished top  = no pontil .  

[flying free]

JP I think the original poster is querying the information that Anne was told compared to his/her own vase -  i.e. that later ones were not lead crystal and were soda glass and did not have pontil marks, because the original poster's vase has a firepolished rim and a polished pontil mark but it is light, not lead crystal.  So it doesn't match the description Anne was given?
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[Paul S.]

not that I know anything about these pieces, but thought the following, quoted from Jackson, might be of interest.............

Described in the book as "Angular mould-blown soda glass......   lightweight turn mould-blown"..................   but of more interest perhaps is the entry from the Glossary for 'turn mould-blown', which reads..........."Smooth-sided mould into which molten glass is blown whilst being spun round on the blowing iron"

As would be expected, the rim would need finishing after detaching from the blowing iron, and this is done, usually, by attaching the pontil rod to the base, which in turn needs to be ground/polished to remove the scar.

Presumably more difficult to spin the heavier lead crystal examples, as opposed to the soda glass pieces - just possibly might imply that these lighter ones could have their rims finished by being held in some way other than on a pontil rod. ?

"Whitefriars Glass - The Art of James Powell & Sons'  -  Edited by Leslie Jackson - 1996.........   pp.  136 and 152 (reference to plate 48 is in error  -  should read plate 148).

[Paul S.]

sorry, not entirely sure I understand Pete's comment    ....  "did you ever find out who made yours."             Is Pete asking if the glassblower's name is known??         or is Pete doubting the attribution ??