No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Old Swirl paperweight  (Read 3327 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline donaldf

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 117
  • I have a soft spot for St Mande / Grenelle
    • Antique French
    • England
Old Swirl paperweight
« on: October 10, 2015, 01:29:30 PM »
Hello All, This one has me puzzled ! It is 54mm diameter, it has two swirls, one rising up from the base, and another flat disc swirl positioned on top of the lower swirl. The central cane does not look familiar to me. The base is polished flat (no wear ring). it has not been restored in any way. The glass has a grey tinge and is not very clear. Has anyone seen anything like it?

Don

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline donaldf

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 117
  • I have a soft spot for St Mande / Grenelle
    • Antique French
    • England
Re: Old Swirl paperweight
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2015, 06:15:07 AM »
Hello All. It seems that it is not only me that is stumped by this one !
Don

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline Hourglass

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 88
Re: Old Swirl paperweight
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2015, 06:45:16 PM »
A photo of the base could be useful to help identify it.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline KevinH

  • Global Moderator
  • Members
  • *
  • Posts: 6545
    • England
Re: Old Swirl paperweight
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2015, 08:53:43 PM »
Hourglass, the 1st photo shows the base.
KevinH

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline Hourglass

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 88
Re: Old Swirl paperweight
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2015, 07:53:58 AM »
Sorry Kevin, I should have taken more notice! I would guess Murano, quite a bit of age to it by the wear on it and by the striations in the clear part of the glass above the swirl in the second picture you can see how when it was in the making how the glass has been twisted. A nice weight. I'm surprised that no-one else has come back to you on this one up to now to give their opinion.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline donaldf

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 117
  • I have a soft spot for St Mande / Grenelle
    • Antique French
    • England
Re: Old Swirl paperweight
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2015, 01:16:26 PM »
Hiya KevinH and Hourglass, thank you for your input. I had not thought of Murano, but in the hand and close up, it has some, but not all the attributes that one associates with Murano. The colours, red white and blue, suggest it is French or made for the French market, mimicking the clichy swirl. I know it is not a clichy because it lacks the sparkle of Clichy, and the base is polished flat. My hunch is Northern Europe... shame I was not in the shop where it was first sold... I could have asked the shop keeper where it came from ;D . We will have to see if any more hunches are offered up on this puzzle of a weight.
Don

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline rocco

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 2312
  • Gender: Male
    • Vienna, Austria
Re: Old Swirl paperweight
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2015, 05:58:01 PM »
In the Brackel book are some very similar paperweights, attributed to Bohemia/Silesia, late 19th to early 20th century.

Michael

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline tropdevin

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 2569
  • Gender: Male
    • Paperweights
    • England
    • The Paperweight People
Re: Old Swirl paperweight
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2015, 12:55:01 AM »
***

Hi Don. I am fairly sure these are Old English, though I have never seen one with a cane before.  I have had two pairs, and an odd one, all made in similar fashion, rather like end pieces might be from the manufacture of the red/white/blue 19th century glass rolling pins.

Alan
Alan  (The Paperweight People  https://www.pwts.co.uk)

"There are two rules for ultimate success in life. Number 1: Never tell everything you know."

The comments in this posting reflect the opinion of the author, Alan Thornton, and not that of the owners, administrators or moderators of this board. Comments are copyright Alan Thornton.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline paperweights

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 511
    • Allan's Paperweights
Re: Old Swirl paperweight
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2015, 02:29:21 PM »
Hi Alan and Donald,

Donald--- what is the height? 

Allan-- Would you mind sharing the reasons for your conclusion.  I can see a connection to the Bohemian swirl paperweights from von Brackel's book. 

Allan
From:  Allan Port
                                                             
Check out my web page for Glass paperweights, Paperweight Books, and Paperweight Information
http://paperweights.com

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline donaldf

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 117
  • I have a soft spot for St Mande / Grenelle
    • Antique French
    • England
Re: Old Swirl paperweight
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2015, 07:15:54 AM »
Hello All

Allan. the weight is 38mm high.

I include an extra side on photo where you can see the two parts to the swirl

Don

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand