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Offline Laird

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Dating a Port or Wine glass
« on: August 02, 2016, 10:28:35 AM »
I am a newcomer to glass collecting and to this Board.
My interest is in Victorian era port and wine glasses which I find at antique fairs etc., without knowing anything more than what I have read so far. I have in a few months, collected about 20 pieces and hopefully from reading the threads on this MB I'll expand my knowledge about what I am looking at.

This small glass has a folded foot. The pontil is rough and sharp. The glass itself is not clear but has what I would describe as a greyish colour.

Is it possible to approximately date this glass? Thank you.






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Re: Dating a Port or Wine glass
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2016, 12:32:13 PM »
Hi Laird,looks like an interesting glass,could you do bigger photos and give the dimensions of the the glass ,cheers.

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Re: Dating a Port or Wine glass
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2016, 01:02:31 PM »
Thank you for responding.

The dimensions are as follows,

Height 11 cms
Bowl diameter 5 cms
Foot diameter 6.2 cms


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Re: Dating a Port or Wine glass
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2016, 01:22:43 PM »
Hi again,the foot makes me feel it could be mid 18th century rather than the later revisited folded feet,maybe a gin glass?Do you know if it's leaded?..Peter will point you in the right direction and I could be way off.

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Re: Dating a Port or Wine glass
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 01:48:57 PM »
Interesting.
i have no idea how to know if it is leaded. The colour is definitely grey and not clear/colourless.
I did read somewhere that the foot of Georgian glasses can have a larger diameter than the bowl.

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Re: Dating a Port or Wine glass
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 03:01:54 PM »
If it rings with a light flick of the finger can be a sign,soda glass will have a dull sound with no resonance.Other things to look for with older glass are trapped air bubbles ,small white stones and small black seeds.You should be able to see tooling marks on the glass and a slight high blip on the rim somewhere.Be warned, if you get the bug for this type of glass it's seriously addictive. ;)

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Re: Dating a Port or Wine glass
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 04:54:33 PM »
Air bubbles - Yes
Blip on rim - a slight one, or at least uneveness.
Small white stones - Yes.
Not sure about resonance when I flick the rim edge.

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Re: Dating a Port or Wine glass
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2016, 08:23:17 PM »
It maybe A continental glass,perhaps Dutch.The foot is quite distinctive,but I'm on very edge of my little knowledge here and hopefully we can get more input later.

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Re: Dating a Port or Wine glass
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 07:28:17 AM »
Hi Laird,could you do a photo of the base showing the pontil and folded foot and a close up of the foot itself,in fact a set of close ups of different parts of the glass would be helpful and may encourage others to comment,thanks.

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Re: Dating a Port or Wine glass
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2016, 02:32:46 PM »
Pics closeup as requested,




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