Topic: Miniature vase with spiral filagree, Bimini or?

[glassobsessed]

Well nearly a miniature, it is a little over 3" tall, for us metric minded measurers that is about 8.5cm. Beautifully made and with quite some precision too.

All thoughts extremely welcome, not a clue here.

John

[flying free]

is the pontil mark right for a Bimini piece?  and is the set next to it definitely a Bimini piece?
Just asking because a new poster posted some information on similar pieces to that set recently.

m

[glassobsessed]

No idea on either question m, not having handled much of this kind. There is no pontil mark on the cocktail stick holder, I only added it for comparison, the vase has a (neatly) snapped off mark.

[flying free]

Probably a red herring because a) I don't know what their pontil mark would be like and b) I couldn't see anything in the same filigrana on looking but you might look up
Beykoz Çeşm-i bülbül

They did make small vases with a pulled fluted rim like that I think.

m

[chopin-liszt]

I've never seen a pontil mark on Bimini - even little "vases" are often (basically) hollow tubes. There isn't any base to have had a pontil rod attached to.

But I couldn't think of anybody else who might have made such a finely worked little bit of filigrano.

[flying free]

ahh Sue, that's interesting -  I knew as I was asking that question that something might not add up but couldn't think what.
Bimini don't have pontil marks?
Is that because they are flame worked glass and never blown on a pontil if they are Bimini?

If that is the case then John would be looking elsewhere for a country/maker.
I think Beykoz is a good bet definitely in terms of shape but couldn't find a match for the filigrana.

m

[chopin-liszt]

I don't know. I just know the tiny vases I've seen and handled wouldn't hold any water. 
The bases are the same as the rims, the entire "vessel" is a hollow, shaped, tube.
I don't know what's at the bottom of the cocktail stick holder, if it has a solid base or not.

[glassobsessed]

Some very nice Turkish glass there, especially the paperweights.

Think of the cocktail stick holder upside down, the base becomes a flared rim, add a crimp to form the waist...

I think the three blue threads in the vase have a white core - the give away is that they appear a much darker blue at the edges.

[flying free]

John you have lost me there ? 
I don't know what you mean ... sorry.  Very tired.
m

[glassobsessed]

When considered upside down it is much easier to see how the stick holder was made, to work what we see as the base it would have been attached to a rod at what is now the top.