Topic: Frosted Victorian jug

[Ekimp]

Nice example of an abrasive frosted Victorian jug. Not sure of a specific date but it has a top down handle and abrasive frosting. 7 inches tall.

The texture of the frosting looks quite uniform so it’s understandable it might be thought acid frosted but you can see around the handle that this isn’t the case. In the x175 magnification image it is obviously abrasive frosted, probably using a technique similar to that mentioned in a 1861 patent “…ground by means of wet sand or of emery, applied by a brush wheel composed of wire, and revolving in a lathe or in a glass grinders’ frame” see https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,70868.msg397299.html#msg397299

[Ekimp]

For comparison, I have included the x175 image of Northwood acid frosting developed c.1867. Ref https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,70755.msg407674.html#msg407674

[flying free]

That looks nicely made.  I like the cut thumb area.  Is the rim fire-polished or cut and polished?

[Ekimp]

It looks quite elegant. The rim is cut and polished at the sides, fire polished at the front. The handle is entirely cut on the outside and down the sides, just the inside of the loop is uncut. I hadn’t thought about it too much, all that cutting on the handle is a bit posh.

[flying free]

All of it looks really beautifully made: The handle, the cut decoration on the body, the merese and the star cut foot.  It looks to be very good quality.  Is it heavy as a matter of interest?
I've never really been sure about the star cut bases and whether they can indicate a time frame - however 10 years ago or so Paul made some comments on this thread about 16 point star indicating 1830 and discussed how the star was cut.  Interesting but as I say, I'm not sure how indicative it is of age as I don't know anything about this area and I don't know if info has changed in the meantime since then.
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,52446.msg297765.html#msg297765

[Ekimp]

Thanks, I remember reading that from Paul. The thing about counting the cuts on the stars seemed a bit unreliable as it would be so easy for manufacturers to do it differently. Maybe a smaller star would have fewer cuts etc. The Miller’s glass Antiques Checklist, Mark West (consultant), says it’s difficult dating 19th century jugs and the only applicable dating point he mentions is the style of the handle. Top down being the style before c.1870. I would guess 1850 to 1870.

It weighs 600g which doesn’t feel particularly light or heavy and nicely made, as you say.

[bat20]

Nice piece and perfect timing with all the info on frosting as I’ve been looking up on this piece ,thanks .!

[Ekimp]

I keep plugging away at frosting

Nice jug, more unusual decoration with the cut star I think. There is a pressed jug from Percival Yates reg. 183352 dated 1865 that has a similar type of star decoration, so might indicate a date for your blown/cut one if that’s when the design was fashionable. https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,66313.msg371634.html#msg371634

The PY one is also shown on the Love Decanters frosted jug YouTube video (in my view his are unlikely to be acid frosted as he states though). He shows the book reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G2SL2A2cGw

[bat20]

Thanks Ekimp , really useful info .