Topic: Uranium Goblet

[flying free]

Thank you for updating this thread.  It will be interesting to see which other makers might come to light and the dates you've been given are more where I thought it could be.

m

[flying free]

The shape is very similar to this decorated enamelled one from Dyatkovo date 1903, however I am not sure (I don't know enough about these to give an informed opinion so best to wait to see if Mr Geiselberger comes back with more information) about the colour of the green being right for them.  Scroll down to Seite 4 von 21 Seiten on this link :
https://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2016-2w-peltonen-pokal-russland-1841-1917.pdf



The item also decorated enamelled here on Seite 5 von 16 appears to show the 1/4 on the foot and gives more information:
https://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2014-4w-sg-dyatkovo-pokal-gruen-1900.pdf

I believe from translation from Pressglas Korrespondenz 2014-4, that it says this goblet with 1/4 on the foot is from Dyatkovo date 1903.


You could reply to Mareike Michl at PK and send those two links and ask what they think regarding it being from Dyatkovo given the marks on the base of your goblet.

m

[NevB]

Thanks m, if you scroll down to Seite 6 on the first link the uranium glass on the left is also very similar to mine, although the stem and foot are slightly different. Maker "probably Maltsov , 1857-ca. 1885", it also has the 1/4 mark moulded into the underside of the foot, from the collection of Bernard Cavalot.  Mine is slightly smaller at just under 14cm. and 9cm. I see they also reference the Baccarat 2426 glass and the similarity except for the rim of the foot, all very intriguing.

[flying free]

 In the link  there is an explanation about where these glasses have originated depending on the mark. There is a lot of research on PK.
Source: Pressglas Korrespondenz 2014-4

 It says

'PK 2014-4, SG: It has now been clarified what the numbers “1/4” pressed into the underside of the foot mean: 4 is the catalogue number of the pressed glass in MB Dyatkovo 1903. There are several pressed glasses with corresponding numbers in the Peltonen collection. It is very unlikely that the Fedorovsky brothers used similar or even identical catalogue numbers. The number “1/4” therefore clearly belongs to Dyatkovo 1903! And the monogram “БФ” definitely belongs to the Fedorovsky brothers / Fjodorovsky [Братья Федоровский]!'

I think Maltsov owned Dyatkovo glass btw.
The item in question is shown on Seite 12/16 here in the catalogue:
https://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2014-4w-sg-dyatkovo-pokal-gruen-1900.pdf


Could you send those links back to Mareike? I'm interested to know what PK say mostly because of the colour of your glass and whether the bowl shape matches.
They reference the Launay Hautin because the designs are very similar but it doesn't say those with this foot are Launay Hautin pieces.

m

[NevB]

m, I've sent Mareike those two links, lets hope they help. One thing I'm curious about is the explanation that the 4 of the 1/4 mark is a catalogue number, it seems not quite right to me. I have doubts mine is a Russian glass, although pieces turn up in the most unlikely of places, in geographical terms, I think it is more likely French/German.

[flying free]

The person with the Russian uranium glass goblets referred to in the Pressglas Korrenspondenz was I believe Bernard from our message board based in UK

[NevB]

I thought it might be.

[flying free]

It will be interesting to see if there is any further information on these (the info I've found so far in Pressglas Korrespondenz runs from 2008-2014) but to me, the shape of yours is the same as the one in the Dyatkovo catalogue and isn't the same as the one in the Launay Hautin.

m

[flying free]

I have been wondering about the colour of yours (and also the size as most of the Russian ones seem to be 14,5cm or 15cm but that's another thing to look into).  It's a very bluey mint or cool green compared to the yellowy warmer greens of all the ones I've linked to on Pressglas Korrespondenz so far.

However I've now found this on Pressglas Korrespondenz - scroll down to Seite 10 von 41:
https://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2019w-chukanova-maltsov-pokal-1903.pdf

So it is known Fedoroskij was making them in a darker cooler green as well (Kristallfabrik Vokovskij der Brüder Fedorovskij ) but that has a different mark to the base of the foot.  It is 15,3cm.

[NevB]

I've had a reply from Mareike. Roger a collector in Finland who has many Russian glasses has confirmed it is definitely Russian!, but no specific maker. How it travelled to an antiques fair in Berkshire must be an interesting tale. I'll ask the mods to move it.