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Author Topic: Help with ID Antique Custom Engraved Black Glass Vase Paden City?  (Read 514 times)

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Offline salsor

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This is a 12" tall black glass vase, deeply engraved with abstract flowers and foliage. It is custom engraved with a name in Victorian style lettering. It is confusing because the design seems more Art Deco style while the lettering is more Victorian style. The base color of the black is difficult to see. It appears as a reddish amber color. The bottom is convex. The glass is thick.

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Re: Help with ID Antique Custom Engraved Black Glass Vase Paden City?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2018, 07:27:28 AM »
For some reason the colour and the design make me think of Saloman Reich as the maker of the glass.
Might be an avenue worth exploring?

I don't think the lettering is Victorian by the way.  It's highly stylised in a beautiful way and done beautifully, but doesn't make me think Victorian when I look at it.
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Re: Help with ID Antique Custom Engraved Black Glass Vase Paden City?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2019, 11:38:01 AM »
I wondered why there was a monogram under the engraved name......sort of thing we see on glass and studio pottery marks.  Admittedly, it would be unusual for the engravers signature to take such a prominent place, but could it be an apprentice piece of some sort? 

I thought the name itself might help but, other than an obscure reference to an old 400 page document about economics of the Philipines......where after much reading it appeared that it should have said "Harry" and not "Hany" lol....... I was left with one "hany j Robinson" who was born around 1913 and lived in Iowa.  I also suspect this was another Harry misprint.
                                 
The colour of the glass reminds me of Bakelite.  Some pieces by Jean Luce do too, like the one here

https://www.pamono.co.uk/black-opaque-glass-candy-box-by-jean-luce.

Also have Jarvil Nancy ringing a faint bell.

I look forward to finding out more about this piece.
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Re: Help with ID Antique Custom Engraved Black Glass Vase Paden City?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2019, 12:24:56 PM »
The monogram is HJR so itís a monogram of the name on the piece.
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Re: Help with ID Antique Custom Engraved Black Glass Vase Paden City?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2019, 12:35:04 PM »
Yes, I got that.  But why would you have a vase with somebody's name engraved and also engrave a monogram of that name? I have not seen that on any other pieces, but maybe other people have.  It feels like a clue.
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Re: Help with ID Antique Custom Engraved Black Glass Vase Paden City?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2019, 02:04:49 PM »
I wonder if whoever engraved it made the same error of misreading the first name Harry as Hany? 
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Re: Help with ID Antique Custom Engraved Black Glass Vase Paden City?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2019, 02:26:33 PM »
Hany is a proper man's name, (according to wiki) and has Arabic roots. (so do numerals, and the letters of the alphabet).
I have a feeling it is a name used more often in the USA than elsewhere, possibly because I've only ever encountered it in old "western movies" I've seen.
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Re: Help with ID Antique Custom Engraved Black Glass Vase Paden City?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2019, 05:12:52 PM »
Couldn't resist it.....have looked at the original document for the 1940 census in USA, and it definitely looks like "Harry" to me, but I can also see why it has been read as "Hany".

The only "Hany Robinson" that comes up, in English text results, appears to be a mistype of "Hana Robinson".  Lots of results for "Harry J Robinson".

Maybe Hany was a family nickname, or maybe the engraver did misread it.  Either way, it's a nice interesting piece.
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Re: Help with ID Antique Custom Engraved Black Glass Vase Paden City?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2019, 09:51:58 PM »
I checked out several Hany Robinson's too and they were all but one an OCR error (rr often gets OCR'd as n), the one that wasn't should have been Hana.
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