Topic: group of 4 , Skrdlovice? Murano, Barbini? and 2 more

[Andy]

I thought id pop these on the same page, got them last week at auction, mainly for the
first 2 for personal collection, need a bit of help in identifying them all
All comments welcome

1) far left in group, surely must be skrdlovice, 70s/80s 13 " Tall.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6192
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6194

2) Tall blue opalescent, beautiful thing, opalescent foot, i think its Italian,
just looked at Svazzos lovely site, Im sure he will recognise it 14 inches tall
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6188
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6191

3) 3rd from left in group, tall cinnamon, deep ribs, nicely finished top/base, heavy, the
whole bottom half is solid, my guess Scandi? or maybe Moser or similar?
The base is highly polished, and concave. 11 1/2" tall.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6190
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6189
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6193

and 4) the red one on the right small polished pontil, unusual Orange colour,
thick top, with even deeper colour.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6191

Thanks in advance,
Andy
 
in Sunny Berkshire UK

[Sklounion]

Andy,
Regarding 1) My question is why you think this is Skrdlovice? (and yes I know people think all Skrdlovice is valuable, but after this week, a certain auction will truly separate wheat from chaff)
Quoting from an eminent specialist.... "thoroughly disheartened"... me like-wise. Many collectors and dealers do their best to find their info, and BUY BOOKS. There is no substitute for reading, and the web does not act as a good or immediate substitute for knowledge, experience and familiarity with and of glass.
Spend some money on good resource books. (A certain highly-admired eBayer and very recent member of this board was prepared to back her search for knowledge with a £176 investment on a single book.)
I am not, like many other serious contributors to this board, a substitute for Millers Guides, (even where we contribute to them), and if this cantankerous fart is peed off, it is at the level of there being so much info here on this board, and no-one bothers to use the search facility???
What do people want, a serious glass information board, or merely an eBay ID/marketing facility???
Seriously annoyed,
Le Casson.

[Ivo]

Aseda Empoli Polish Aseda.



i think.

[Andy]

Marcus,
sorry youre upset, ive only been collecting for a few years, i stumbled across
Skrdlovice accidentally and like it! I have no intention of ebaying this piece, or what
its value is, i probably paid too much for it anyway, it is for my shelves, as it matches
these other ones,
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6195

And im sorry i havent managed to get a full library on all the glass in the world,
personally , i feel a great gratification if i can manage to help someone identify something,
and , yes, you do sound like a peed off cantankerous fart,
I hope its just a bad day, and you are not always like that!
Andy

[Andy]

Thanks Ivo,

im afraid Marcus has rather spoilt the fun and enjoyment i was getting from this site
Andy

[Sklounion]

 i havent managed to get a full library on all the glass in the world,>
Neither have I...
but many folks work damned hard to acquire that knowledge and share it....
If I have spoilt things..... hey ho, I can be one very miserable bastard....
But... I ask again, why you feel the item you highlight as Skrdlovice, is, in your opinion, from that factory?
Sure, they produced items of a similar design base, as did several other CZ companies and designers. Like-wise Scandinavia, and Whitefriars.
What is it for you, that tells you CZ, and if no other candidates, why not? Which designers do you suggest?
Regards,
Le Casson

[Andy]

Marcus,
Ive just always thought they were Skrdlovice, but as i say , im learning,
ive got some other similar pieces , that have Skrdlovice  labels, ive probably bought a few on ebay,
classified as Skrdlovice, from places such as Austria and Germany, and maybe they were something
else, so now im not sure about anything, whatever they are, i like them , and look out for
similar ones,  then its nice to use all possible places to help identify them , books, the web,
or maybe ask someone who has years more experience than myself
Id like to think this forum is for people with all sorts of knowledge, tastes and experiences of
all sorts of different glass , not just the experts!

I dont want to overtax your braincells at all, but if you think im on the wrong track with my
opinions, point me the right way, and i will try and find out more for myself!!
I seem to learn about new glass companies every day, so, please, give me a few more years
before you get too upset with us amateurs!
Cheers Andy

 

[Sklounion]

Andy,

overtax your braincells at all

I have, sadly, but one, dedicated at all times to CZ/SLO glass of the communist period.
It is always at the fullest extent of its limited capacity
If I get annoyed, then it is at an apparent belief that all items of this type are "propeller" vases by Kotik, for Skrdlovice.
Like-wise at those who think all vases from Sklo Union are by Vizner.
Some of the most affordable books are the most accurate, the most expensive, inadequate.
Yet, looking at Ivo's suggestions, these are some of the most common items, well documented.
You do have some very good Skrdlovice items, and some will not be valuable, even though no longer in production. But you must learn to differentiate. A Burian piece will be interesting, but that is all. A Foltyn item from a limited individual artists edition may become valuable. A signed Vizner is valuable, as it implies that he was present when Spinar or Beranek made the item. Yet if the item went into full-scale production, they are interesting but not valuable.
But, most importantly, no amount of similarities makes a Scandinavian item, Skrdlovice.
Regards,
Le Casson

[Ivo]

im afraid Marcus has rather spoilt the fun and enjoyment i was getting from this site

Oh pooh.
you should not let your pleasure be galled by an irritated snarl from Marcus who can be, in his own words, a right miserable bastard. But who in reality is a very wise, likeable and charitable man even if he likes to think differently.  Life is too short for dog fights. Now stop it, both of you.

[Frank]

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