Topic: Help please Need ID.

[Pinkspoons]

Stop it, you're making me blush... 

I'm more of a hoarder of stuff than a knower of things. I'd be useless without my stacks of catalogue pages, links, photographs and (most importantly!) glass all piled up around me.

[Cazza]

Dont think its the ekanas, but I am no expert wish I was, I am still learning.. will keep looking though.

[Cazza]

Hi there Nic
the pic you sent of 1950 pitcher looks the same colour to me. Have a couple more pics, which look more like it.


 http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/5/4/1/2/4/webimg/45013909_o.jpg

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/5/4/1/2/4/webimg/45013917_o.jpg

What do you think now please.

[Pinkspoons]

Hello.

Much nicer photographs. I agree, the colours are similar, but I would still say that it's not Holmegaard, I'm afraid.

I'm happy to be wrong, and I frequently am, but I suspect not in this case. I own around 300 pieces of Holmegaard, probably nearly half of that being tableware, and I've handled/studied hundreds more, but I've still not come across any pitchers in this shape, size or thickness of glass. Nothing remotely similar appears in the original factory pricelists/catalogues I have either (although, admittedly, they're FAR from complete).

But even if it is Polish you've still got a pretty decent lump of decorative glass for your £15, so it's not all bad news. And there genuinely is nothing wrong with Polish glass - except for its resale value. I used to collect lots of crazy-shaped Polish pitchers when I first started in glass, and they're incredibly fun.

[Anne]

I was just re-checking the reference in the DK book and that particular attribution is credited to Graham Cooley ( as in http://www.cambridgeglassfair.com/exhibitors/interviewarchive/int-cooley-graham.htm ) - does anyone have contact with him to be able to check if he revised this attribution later, or what he based it on originally? (Is he a board member?)

[Cazza]

Hi there Anne
Thank you for keep looking, I somehow think Nic could be wrong this time. I do not think the photo's helped, the glass looks thicker in the pics, but the picture which was posted before by him really is so similar, that it convinced me. Its a quality piece of that I am sure. I am fairly new to buying glass, but have found I have an eye for it. I was going to go to the library to check this one out as I do not have many books on glass.  Although of course I have to respect you lot including Nic as I realise you all have a greater knowledge than me on this. If I prove to be correct I wonder what it would be worth, you see I buy mainly to sell, although I tend to keep the more unusual. Suppose that's where it all begins.

[Pinkspoons]

As I said, I'm always happy to be wrong - but you'll be hard-pushed to find any conclusive evidence at your local library as there is very little research literature that covers Holmegaard in any real way, and what little there is is almost always full of errors. And all the good stuff is in Danish. And none of the good bits I have cover this pitcher.

One idea would be to send an email to Mogens Leth (the third name down on the drop-down menu) from the Glashistorisk Selskab Holbæk site on this page here:

Glashistorisk Selskab Contact Page

He speaks very good English and is a very nice chap. The society are busy preparing an exhibition at the Holmegaard museum, but should be able to get back to you after 27th April. The society have a near-complete collection of catalogues and a broad combined knowledge of Danish glass, not just Holmegaard specifically.

[Cazza]

Hi again Nic, thank you for the link, have sent an email. Will keep you informed of what he has to say. Just hope he understands the email.
You have all been very helpful and this is one of the nicest places to post questions, and pick brains.
Many thanks to all who contributed to this question.

[josordoni]

Stop it, you're making me blush... 

I'm more of a hoarder of stuff than a knower of things. I'd be useless without my stacks of catalogue pages, links, photographs and (most importantly!) glass all piled up around me.

Come off it Nic - you don't think that to be an EXPERT you have to hold everything in your head do you?  Expertise is the ability to look at a piece of whatever it may be, and to know if it is right or not.  You may not know EXACTLY what it is, but you normally can tell if it isn't...

I still make far too many basic errors to ever be called an expert in anything, but I'm enjoying the learning....

[Pinkspoons]

Nice of you to say so. Although I still excell at making lots of basic errors when it comes to being instinctive, I just usually have the collected information around me with which to revise that initial opinion into an educated guess before it ever reaches these boards. Well, usually.