Topic: Dating Whitefriars / Powell

[Pinkspoons]

Pip was right then. 

Is there any obvious way of differentiating between soda glass and lead crystal (as I assume post-war Ruby was L.C.)?

[robbo]

Nic, if I understand the book correctly, all WF solid ruby is soda glass. Twilight (1954) is also soda glass. When clear cased ruby appears (L Jackson says 1955) the casing is crystal. She doesn't seem to mention if the ruby inside the casing is LC or soda. I don't know if it would be possible to case soda glass with LC 

robbo

[Pip]

Pip was right then. 

... for a change 

[Frank]

I don't know if it would be possible to case soda glass with LC 

Impossible.

[vidfletch]

You are all not looking hard enough!

http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/memb1/cat-40/p56.jpg

http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/memb1/cat-40/p57.jpg

Vidfletch

[David Hier]

You are all not looking hard enough!

http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/memb1/cat-40/p56.jpg

http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/memb1/cat-40/p57.jpg

Vidfletch

I couldn't see a date on those pattern book pages. Do you know what year they are from?

[vidfletch]

They are 1940 catalogues pages. The "cat-40" part of the link gives it away!

Go here to see the catalogues;

http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/GMIE-sm/whitefriars_catalogues.htm

Vidfletch

[vidrioguapo]

I was  told by someone more familiar than me with the technicalities of some Whitefriars glass, that the textured ranges from the late 60's i.e. barks, coffins etc had a coloured soda glass inner and a crystal outer casing, thus making it possible to case soda with crystal.  Too late tonight to get some further info on this, but will try to further clarify this in next few days.  Emmi

[David Hier]

They are 1940 catalogues pages. The "cat-40" part of the link gives it away!

Go here to see the catalogues;

http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/GMIE-sm/whitefriars_catalogues.htm

Vidfletch

That's great thanks. I can now see where I went wrong. Once I found the pattern on page 3 of the 1940 catalogue, I neglected to see if the pattern appeared later on in the same catalogue. As you pointed out, the 9030 pattern is listed in ruby on page 56.

Now I'm pretty much back where I started: Pattern No. 9030 (in ruby), designed 1935 and manufactured between 1940 and 1964.

Thanks for all the help anyway.

Incidentally, from the weight and ring of the piece I am fairly confident that the vase isn't made of Soda Glass. I will check the vase with a UV light later today.

[Pip]

Now I'm pretty much back where I started: Pattern No. 9030 (in ruby), designed 1935 and manufactured between 1940 and 1964.

Which is what I said way back at the beginning of the thread in the link to my vase - just wondering now if I have a credibility problem