Topic: FBS mark (French, Scottish, Italian & Czech glass) ... Solved - See Post 88

[Frank]

There are plenty of bad attributions on the web. We tend to ignore them, or treat as 'possible or probable' if there is nothing to back it up, until proof comes along.  But you can use the attributions as starting points, often they trace baxk to a book, sometimes that confirms and other times there is just a dead end as the author does not give any sources for attribution.

[Patti]

Thank you for the information I have received from you all.  Since there doesn't seem to be a lot of information about this vase, I'm happy about what I do know.
At this point, I think I'll just go ahead and list it on ebay in a few weeks and let someone else figure out what it is.

I do appreciate your help, though.

Patti

[Frank]

Another French example. Probably an enamelled mark as the piece had transfers and gold striping too.

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=300140161974

Does anyone know which glassworks and actual years of production of this piece

[Frank]

On my vase the mark was an acid stamp with the divided circle similar to that shown on the Monart vase on Frank's site, however, mine differed in that there was a second, outer circle, containing the words 'TRADE MARK'.

Missed that remark before, another one for a trade mark search, probably US. Not in on-line uspto database.

[krsilber]

I have a very similar mark on a Czech porcelain demitasse...

[Frank]

They obviously covered a wide range of quality goods, it is remarkable that this still remains unknown! Howabout Fred's Bargain Store... g'night

[Tigerchips]

A hand painted mark...
http://www.collectorscircle.com/bohemian/porcelain/unidentified/FBS-Italy.jpg

[Frank]

I found a possible candidate in some recently arrived US list of importers from 1921 and 1922:

Ferdinand Bing & Co. 'S succrs (Presumably Successors)
Art Wares and Novelties, Pottery, Bronzes, Marble and Lamps.
67-69 Irving Pl. New York

I have no time to follow this up now.

[krsilber]

Just did a Google.  Didn't find much though.

This talks about a legal issue with Ferdinand, etc. from 1914
http://books.google.com/books?id=p04LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA708&lpg=PA708&dq=%22Ferdinand+Bing+%26+Co%22&source=web&ots=r-F-QrAAsq&sig=SefDz_JdRjnKe68wLL7I5Zcw9F4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

This mentions them in passing, but gives dates 1898-1900 and 1905-1911, at some point during which there was correspondence with the firm.  "Succrs" does mean "successors."  Never heard the term in that context before.
http://www.albanyinstitute.org/collections/library/Research_and_Resources/FindingAids/Annesley&co.%20HP%2081-05.pdf

[Frank]

That archive might contain examples of any logo they used! Anyone live in range?

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