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Author Topic: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?  (Read 2774 times)

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Offline uphoosier

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Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« on: December 13, 2007, 11:37:15 PM »
I know nearly all controlled bubble vases are Murano in origin, but I just don't get a Murano feel from this vase.  It is 6" tall.  The dimpled pontil is polished.  The threading is on the underside of the ruffled rim and it is irregular.  Is there a name for this technique?  Opinions as to its age/origin?  Thanks for looking. 

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Re: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 05:15:27 AM »
I also don't think it's Italian. I get an American and/or studio glass feel from this. Too bad it's not signed...
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Re: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 09:22:34 AM »
I know nearly all controlled bubble vases are Murano in origin,
:huh: :huh: :huh: I'm puzzled by this statement!  Can you explain it?  Can anyone else comment on it?   :huh: :huh: :huh:

Am I missing something?  :spls:
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Re: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2007, 10:06:29 AM »
It's a very sweeping statement and a bit like the one that all vases with circular ground out pontil marks are Whitefriars - a myth perpetuated by ebay. Controlled bubble items seem to have been made all over the world and the Murano output is probably only a small portion of the total

It's a nice vase and not one I've seen before but my thoughts might veer toward considering Czech origins. Can we see a picture of the base please.

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Re: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2007, 11:07:34 AM »
Christine, there is now a photo of the bottom in the album.  Thanks.

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Re: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2007, 05:13:24 PM »
Controlled bubbles as well as random bubbles were a very widely used feature of 60-70ies Norwegian glass also,
Magnor especially used a lot of controlled bubble designs, some so similar to Swedish output it can
be hard to tell the difference. Luckily a lot of the Swedish designs were signed and Magnor was usually not.
A pic of blue Magnor vase attached (next to a murano dovetail). This is just an attribution as it is not signed
and swedish vases that look very similar abound.

At Randsfjord Glass, where Benny Motzfeldt was the main designer for a good while, they created a myriad of designs
with bubbles, large,small, frothy etc. BM used the same techinques in her designs for Hadeland and Plus Glass,
and her influence on other designers was probably quite strong. Most BM art glass designs I have seen have had bubbles in some
form or another.

Arne Jon Jutrem created a very nice and still very popular series called Grønland ( eng. Greenland) full of bubbles.
Two pics of an AJJ Grønland piece attached.


Edit - Forgot to mention FM Ronneby above, some very nice designs, where controlled bubbles big and small abound,
currently being discussed in another topic.
Alexander
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Re: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2007, 07:31:34 PM »
Thank you for the education on controlled bubbles in glass production.  Any further thoughts on origin of this piece, or is it just too indistinct?  What can I call the treatment under the ruffled edge - threaded, or is there a better term?

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Re: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2007, 08:10:43 PM »
Threaded will do.

Controlled bubbles are mostly done by using a mould that has a lot of pins in it. Each pin gives a bubble in the finished object. They can also be done using a pin wheel or one at a time using a pin. If you look through the archive you are bound to find a picture of such a mould.

Randomised bubbles are formed by sprinkling the glass with something that is vapourised by the heat and then covering in another layer of glass.

All these techniques are the basics of glass decorations and used everywhere.

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Re: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2007, 02:34:37 AM »
Not at all what I was thinking, but it turns out this vase was made by Fry.  Thanks for all the efforts.
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Re: Controlled bubble vase with threading - origin?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2007, 02:46:18 AM »
That's great that you got an ID! How did you come about it?

Shannon
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