Topic: Satin Glass Controlled Bubble Vase - MOP? Victorian? Murano?

[shandiane78]

I figure there are three things this could be...Victorian Mother of Pearl, Mid Century Murano repro of Victorian MOP, or a recent import in the style of Victorian MOP. (I don't know if these exist or not, but it wouldn't surprise me.) Of course, this is all based on my rudimentary knowledge of this kind of glass!

When I saw the base, it sure looked like a Chinese pontil, but then, I don't know what a Victorian pontil should look like, and I also don't know how the Murano reproductions were finished. The bottom looks to have a decent amount of wear.

If it were Victorian MOP, I think the pattern would be Muslin (also known as Dotted Swiss), shown on this page:

http://www.fairy-lamp.com/Horn/MOPStudy.html

It's 8" tall, and about 6 1/2" wide. What do you think? TIA!

[Lustrousstone]

I would go with the late 18th/turn of the 19th century option. There is no Victorian pontil mark, some are neat and tidy, others downright dangerous

[shandiane78]

Thank you Christine! I found a very similar vase here (about 2/3 of the way down the page):

"Mt. Washington
M.O.P. satin glass large
bulbous vase in Alice Blue
color. Muslin pattern,
applied frosted edge,
three petal top."

http://www.brooksideartglass.com/pdf/hardlistlsa0805.pdf

What do you think?

[Ivo]

What do you think?

question solved, good sleuthing. Better make that end 19th, not end 18th.

[Lustrousstone]

  I shouldn't post when I'm in a hurry. Looks good to me Here's a nice Mount Washington article, but it does say Phoenix Glass was granted a license for the MOP glass, wonder what they made?

[shandiane78]

Thanks Ivo! I've never had anything like this, and I don't know much about Victorian glass, so it was exciting (and really lucky) to find it out there on the 'net.

Don't worry, Christine, I knew what you meant! Do you have a link for the article?

[Lustrousstone]

http://www.journalofantiques.com/Apr05/featureapr05.htm here it is - I've been having a blonde day all day  :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Ron]

Phoenix had their own patent for an air-trap process.

Quoting from Phoenix Art Glass, copyright 2004 by Leland Marple:
"Although Mt. Washington possessed the Dean-Peltier patent, there seems to be no surviving record of any commercial products from this firm. In fact the only indication that this firm made any air-trap ware at all comes from a trade advertisement that lists "Pearl Satin" among their products. Unlike Phoenix, we can find no evidence that Mt. Washington used their existing shape molds for air trap products. The lack of examples and documentation helps to explain why this type of glassware was omitted in a recent publication describing the artistic glass Mt. Washington made prior to 1900."

[shandiane78]

Thanks Ron. So...Sorry to be dense, but what does this mean? That it's not Mt. Washington? Or maybe it is, but there are no records to confirm?

[Ron]

I really don't know, but I suspect the latter.

I've found no pictures in the Phoenix book showing this pattern.