Topic: Derbyshire green uranium Dog ?

[Sue C]

Hi all, got this today, but there are no mark's whatsoever, i think it is a Spaniel with it's tongue hanging out, about seven inches long.
Forgot to mention that he is filthy dirty, and is about to have a bath.

[Lustrousstone]

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Spaniels hate clean water...I've got one. Dirty water is best. Let me know if you ebay it please

[Sue C]

"i think it is a Spaniel with it's tongue hanging out, about seven inches long"

  i meant the piece of glass, not the dog's tongue

I will Christine.

I have searched the web and cant find any other examples  does anyone have any other links?

[antiquerose123]

 :mrgreen: me too....green with envy

[mrvaselineglass]

There was a yellow vaseline version on ebay about a week ago that did not sell.  Also, did you know that there were two molds?  These came as a pair.  One has it's head turning to the right, the other one has the head turning to the left.  Sort of mirror image, like bookends.  I am not sure if they are Derbyshire or not.

[Sue C]

Hi Dave, yes i know they should be a pair, but thanks for the info.
I wonder why it didn't sell, damage? priced to high? or just because there was only one?

Who do you think may have made them Dave?

[mrvaselineglass]

the piece was undamaged, just had a high initial starting bid.  I dont recall how many GBP, but it was about $185 USD.  I don't think it was due to not having a pair for sale, as these just dont show up very often.  Jenny Thompson states in her book that the distinctive ridged plinth on the Newfoundland is the same as on the lion and greyhound (which are marked) and that the Newfoundland dog is generally attributed to Derbyshire, but is an unmarked piece.  I have always thought they were Derbyshire. 

by the way, a vaseline greyhound sold in the US in a live auction about 3 o4 4 months ago for $1300 USD + 20% buyer's premium.

[mhgcgolfclub]

I do not think anyone has a 100% answer as to the maker of the dog, I have had people tell me Davidson but I still would say Derbyshire was a much stronger bet, Derbyshire's Queen Victoria figure was unmarked, there was also one other similar dog forward facing on a ridged plinth that was made and very seldom seen, also unmarked and that seems to be attributed to Greener

Roy

[Bernard C]

... a vaseline greyhound sold in the US in a live auction about 3 o4 4 months ago for $1300 USD + 20% buyer's premium.

Dave — The one piece of English pressed that could break all records, if it exists, is the Derbyshire Old Rugged Cross in vaseline/canary.   I've only ever seen the one, in unfrosted flint, and that example looked as if it had spent some time in a toy box.   It's a beautifully sculpted piece on a delightfully rocky base.    It's a mystery to me why it's such a rarity.

... there was also one other similar dog forward facing on a ridged plinth that was made and very seldom seen, also unmarked and that seems to be attributed to Greener ...

Roy — This, if we are talking about the same dog, was by Percival Vickers.   It's forward facing, rather shaggy and almost leonine in appearance, and is on a simple angled gadrooned oval base.   I can't see a tail in the photograph, so if there is one, it's on its right side.   The height is given as 12.5cm, but this measurement may not be accurate, as the photograph was of an example in private ownership, and the measurement may have been supplied to the author of the article, a museum person, as a measured 5", and translated into metric.   As an aside, isn't it ludicrous that the obsession of British museum authorities with the metric system leads to such uncertainty and inaccuracy.    If it was a measured 5", then it should have been given as either 5" or 5" (12.5cm).

This dog is the only example of PV's 1870s fancies to appear in their 1881 Pressed Glass Catalogue.   Why is not known, but one explanation is that there was a separate catalogue of fancies, now lost.   It looks very Derbyshire in style, and, as we know that the Manchester factories actively co-operated with each other, it seems reasonable to not exclude the possibility that all these Manchester dogs were sculpted by the same mouldmaker.

Source:- Barbara Yates, The Glasswares of Percival Vickers & Co. Ltd., Jersey Street, Manchester, 1844–1914, in The Journal of The Glass Association, Volume 2, 1987.   I believe this volume is still in print and available from both The Glass Association and Broadfield House Glass Museum.

Bernard C. 

[mrvaselineglass]

Bernard
I did not even know about such an item as the old rugged cross.  interesting!  I think the most expensive piece of english pressed novelty glass that I have seen is the BURTLES, TATE elephant in primrose pearline (yellow opalescent).  There may be other pieces that go higher, but that one comes on the market about once every 1-2 years, so it is common enough for people to know about it.  I have never seen the sphinx that is in Ray Slack's book, so I have no idea how high that one sells for when it comes on the market. I would think it would also be very expensive.