Topic: daum vase

[nrl]

Hello

Can anyone out there date this vase by the signature.

Thanks

[Sue C]

Hi, and welcome to the board  :girlcheer:  late 20th centuary see here http://www.stylendesign.co.uk/guidepages/marksdtoe.html
scroll down.

[nrl]

Hello

Thankyou for that info, but do you mean by the late 20th century this is a copy?

[Sue C]

Sorry to confuse you, i missed a letter, should have read later 
http://www.stylendesign.co.uk/guidepages/marksdtoe.html
This may also help
http://www.chasenantiques.com/index.php?pid=4&ipid=131

[nrl]

Hello

I really am a bit green I think,  what decade of the later 20th century would you say, I brought this for good money and think perhaps I have been done.

[Frank]

That site is not well researched and in a brief scan I saw quite a few things that must have come from older books. This particular mark was used as early as 1900 according to Hartmann, but your vase could even be in current production and this style of signature which is handpainted might still be used. There are lots of retailers for Daum glass online so you could start there to see if it is current range. It is not cheap glassware so a good modern example found cheaply can be enjoyed as much as one that is one hundred years old. eBay could be a minefield as with such a span of production it is hard to know for sure if what you read is accurate. Any good auction house or dealer in Daum should be able to date this piece.

Prices are from a few hundred to several thousand retail.

Daum website http://www.daum.fr/

[nrl]

Hi Frank

The signature as are the leaves are raised from the glass so I guess it has been acid dipped or sand blasted, I did get it from a regular fair dealer so I am sure you can understand my concerns. I need to be sure incase I have to go back to them.

[Frank]

The sig looks like it is painted with gold enamels, quite normal. Auction houses are the best place to get an opinion on this type as you need a lot of experience to date and authenticate such pieces. Showing to other Daum dealers can be just as good a way of checking. This style of Daum signature is found faked on unmarked cameo, as you only need a relatively low temperature to fuse the enamels this is easily done. So signatures are just a guide. Had the signature been etched on the original blank it would be the same colour as the leaves.

It is sensible to get it checked but do not worry unduly if you bought from a good dealer.

[Frank]

Sandblasting of signatures is usually done with a stencil and is often very superficial, under a glass you can see the pits made by the particles. Acid etched signatures eat into the glass and have a much finer texture than sandblasted which is the norm on modern glassware, say 1970's on but can also be found on much older glass too.

[Mosquito]

The signature looks to be a cameo signature rather than enamelled, to my eyes at least. Clearer pics would be a help.