Topic: Hand Torch Vase ID

[sunflower2]

Hi--Can anyone tell me for certain if this "hand holding torch vase" is Fenton?  It has a 3-part mold, a long shear line and stands 12 1/4" tall.   Thanks for any info you can provide.

[Andy]

Hi Sunflower,
try this link , written by a couple of clever members of this board

http://www.glass.co.nz/glasshandvases.htm

Hope this helps, and welcome to the glass message board,
Cheers
Andy

[sunflower2]

Thanks! 

That web page was my starting place, and is what brought me to the glass message board.  I see similiar vases like mine in the last picture showing Marinka's collection, but don't know if they are Fenton. 

[Andy]

Hopefully Marinka will pop in , and help you. Im sure she will soon.
Regards
Andy

[jsmeasell]

Not Fenton, as the crimp is not right and the shape near the bottom is quite different. Does this one have a pontil mark?

[sunflower2]

No pontil mark.  Thanks for your info about Fenton. 

Would anyone know what company made this one?

[heartofglass]

Hi there,
this type of vase definitely not Fenton, but sorry I cannot identify the exact manufacturer at this stage.
My personal opinion is that these particular vases are of a relatively recent manufacture, perhaps 1970s-1980s & possibly Asian origin. I have several in my collection, one of which was purchased in Vietnam by the dealer who sold it to me. Quality-wise, this vase does not compare with most of the original Victorian era ones or the modern Fenton ones either. Sometimes these vases are referred to as art deco or Depression glass, but I personally do not believe these are of that vintage, despite some superficial resemblances in terms of colour. The finish on these particular vases is not even up to that of typical early 20th century pressed glass, as the mould fins are very obvious & the amount of glass used in each pressing of the vase (from comparing different examples of the same vase) varies considerably. In terms of hand vases, they quite are commonly found.
Nevertheless, they are still pleasing examples of the hand vase genre & very decorative.

[Dave the Glass]

I saw this one on good old Dave Doty's site it is close

http://www.ddoty.com/handvase.html

[Glen]

I have handled a lot of the Indian Carnival Glass Hand vases (and I mean a lot ). I do not think the one in this thread is like them, Dave.

Glen

[Glen]

Marinka, I just looked at your lovely article on the Glass Museum website. In the section on the Carnival Glass vases, you wrote:

Sometimes Jain iridized hand vases are not marked at all, sometimes they are marked JAIN and sometimes with the company's logo, a sathya or swastika (a traditional sacred emblem in India).

Have you actually seen a Carnival Glass Hand vase marked "with the company's logo, a sathya or swastika"? I have not seen or handled any. The Elephant vase is the only one I am aware of that has the swastika.

Glen