Topic: Clear Glass Pickle Dish, w/Cross Thatch pattern

[antiquerose123]

Have this, which I use as a Pickle dish.  Very, very heavy with thick glass.  I call it a cross thatch pattern, as I do not know what else to call it.  It seems to have a lot of *sparkle* to it too.  Anyone know maker, or age?  TIA

[antiquerose123]

and one more pic, said before was too large??

[Bernard C]

Rose — A beautiful dish, expertly cut, and it looks hand-polished as well, an indicator of top quality.   The difficulty is that all the best cut glass manufacturers made this pattern.   So, if British, which I strongly suspect it is, it could be Stourbridge, Birmingham, London, Manchester, Staffordshire, Edinburgh .....

See here for another example of the pattern, this time identified by me as by the Walsh team as I know the piece, having had marked examples through my hands.

This quality of table glass is just not made today, as hand-polishing is far too time consuming and expensive, and the few who can cut to this standard seem to be occupied with ornamental glass, trophies, and the like.   It is a wise collector indeed who chooses to invest in such superb glass, often for use on special occasions.

Bernard C. 

[antiquerose123]

Hi Bernard:

Thanks for your speedy reply.  Would these be marked (possibly) in a certain place, to start looking?  I spotted it at a Garage sale, and got it for $1.00 CAD, that was being run by a guy calling himself an antique dealer.  I thought by the weight, and sparkle it was better than average....and I thought it was * purdy *

What would you call the pattern?  I did not know if I should call it a diamond pattern, cross-stitch, or crossed thatched (?) pattern.  As you can tell, I knew nothing about it, but the weight is extremely heavy.

Do you have an idea of a date at all?  Again Thank you so very much.

[Bernard C]

Rose — I don't know the pattern name, so, like you, I would welcome enlightenment.   "crossed thatched" is unlikely and makes me think of a badly repaired and leaky cottage roof, but it could possibly be "cross-hatched"!

Much more likely pre-war than later.   Not modern.

I think you've squeezed as much as you can out of me.   Squeeze any more and you'll get pith, which you can take or leave — it's up to you!  

Bernard C. 

[antiquerose123]

Thank You for everything... :hiclp: :hiclp:

[krsilber]

Nice dish, well cut and polished.  I guess I'm not quite as enthusiastic about it as Bernard.  The cutting is good, but it's not a very difficult design.  It's impossible to tell from the photos whether it was acid polished or not - even in person it's sometimes very hard to tell because the better firms followed acid polishing with hand polishing (at least in the US, and I believe the same thing happened in the UK).  You can often still see striations in the cuts even with acid polishing.

Speaking from an American standpoint (and I believe it holds true over there, too), those in the cut glass collector/dealer biz would call the design on the bottom a motif rather than a pattern.  That motif is called block or flat diamond.  The pattern would include all the designs (motifs), so the piece Bernard linked to wouldn't actually be the same pattern since it lacks the prism motif on the sides.  Something to keep in mind when looking for a matching pattern.

Bernard's right that this general block/diamond motif is very common.  Yours looks a bit different from his - the flat bits are square rather than diamond-shaped.

I could of course be wrong, but don't get the feeling this is very old (i.e. >100 years).  It doesn't have the feel of Regency cutting; I would expect it to have some kind of cut rim motif if it were.  It's too simple for the Brilliant period.  It reminds me more of the Edinburgh designs from the mid-20th C and a bit later that are pictured on Frank's Glass Catalogue site.  However, I've never handled any of these in person, so I don't know their quality.

(Cross-hatching is a motif with many very fine, shallow cuts in a crossed pattern.  The photo below is of a cross-hatched band about 2 cm wide...)