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Offline Tigerchips

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« on: August 22, 2005, 07:44:13 PM »
Hi, I have two piece's of glass that I don't know much about.  :?

I think this one is made by Alrose, Murano.


I thought it might be Alrose because their is a similar vase on Ebay.
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I haven't got a clue who made this next one. It has what looks like three layers of glass. Red, white and orange. Edited: Possibly 4 layers as it looks as though it has a clear casing on the outside.

You can see the white and orange layers in this picture.  :)


Any information on these would be much appreciated.  :)
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2005, 10:01:11 AM »
Hi Tigerchips - I'll be very interested to see if anyone can shed any light on your "Alrose" vase.  The eBay link that you give shows an illustration taken from Leslie Pina's "Italian Glass" of a decanter that I have.  This was discussed in a previous thread hhttp://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1842.0.html. 

 Mat (guest) and Jemmy too, I am sure will be following this with interest also, as they too have the same decanter.  I have to agree with Cathy(?) in your previous posting on the general glass thread, that Alrose doesn't sound Italian and might well be the name of the importer.  It would be good to see a label.  The base of mine had what only could be described as an inverted "nipple".  I can't tell from your picture whether yours has, or not.  I've googled "Alrose"  without success - but will keep trying.

Regards - Anne E.B. :lol:
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2005, 01:02:16 PM »
Hello Anne, when you mentioned searching Google you reminded me of a previous search I did when looking for information on Alrose.  :)

Here it is but it's cached so no picture and only part of the description.
 :arrow: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:L58UAgbJxF4J:search.rubylane.com/search/,id%3D35.1.1,page%3D9+alrose+murano&hl=en

I wonder if anyone knows how to read the entire description in full.

My base doesn't have an inverted nipple but the way the stripes spiral out is similar.  :)
http://tinypic.com/ayw086.jpg

I'll admit myself that I thought it was a modern piece at first, but the ware to the base seemed a bit much for ultra modern.  :)
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2005, 02:10:48 PM »
Quote from: "Tigerchips"
Hello Anne, when you mentioned searching Google you reminded me of a previous search I did when looking for information on Alrose.  :)
Here it is but it's cached so no picture and only part of the description.
 :arrow: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:L58UAgbJxF4J:search.rubylane.com/search/,id%3D35.1.1,page%3D9+alrose+murano&hl=en
I wonder if anyone knows how to read the entire description in full.
My base doesn't have an inverted nipple but the way the stripes spiral out is similar.  :)
http://tinypic.com/ayw086.jpg
I'll admit myself that I thought it was a modern piece at first, but the ware to the base seemed a bit much for ultra modern.  :)


Thanks for the link showing details of the Alrose Company pitcher.  Shame there's no picture to go with it :)

I've taken another picture of the base of my "Alrose" decanter for comparison.  Yours looks remarkably like mine. :shock:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/decanterbase.jpg

I'm sure someone will be able to confirm whether yours is by the same maker or not.


Regards - Anne E.B. 8)
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2006, 12:09:28 PM »
I've found a vase on ebay which is identical in shape to my orange vase. I'm just wondering if anybody can identify the maker by the label?

Ebay vase
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7385802298&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Also, the spiral vase above looks similar to David555's vase that he posted recently, could they be related?
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4261.0.html

Thanks.  :)
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2006, 01:49:25 AM »
Hi

I think with the moulded twist and the white spiral it is Tiger :!:

My dealer has your shape, undulating forms, decanters, and lots of my type of vase - they come in many colours from bright red, orange, amethyst, green - to light olive and beige.

The base of my item is the same as your vase Tiger and the green decanter shown by Anne.

So a connection has been made - Many of the items in my dealers shop have the G Hardy sticker on - note 'Italian Art Glass' - some also have a red and gold foil sticker similar to but not Seguso.

I think the stickers give a date of 1970s - I don't know if G Hardy imported Alrose or indeed who else imported Alrose

This is their sticker Alrose from a large glass goblet - not like our pieces at all auction link

Note that the label like the G Hardy sticker says 'Italy'

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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2006, 12:58:32 PM »
It could certainly be an English importer label.

Jaffe Rose and Hoskins Rose both imported Italian glass. Check-out if any had a director with the name A.L. Rose.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2006, 10:59:54 PM »
I have recenly come by a large Empoli looking jug with with two stripes rather than the usual four. It's a shame it had no labels though.

It would appear from this link that there is a positive relationship between G Hardy and the decanters marked Empoli.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Large-Italian-Art-Glass-Vase_W0QQitemZ7391523309QQcategoryZ994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The jug I was just talking about had exactly the same colours and decoration so these are probably related too.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2006, 11:19:54 PM »
Excellent Tiger

This is from the same range as mine and I think the others on this thread - my dealer has this exact same bottle vase in orange but without the G Hardy label - pieces are starting to come together a bit more now.

G Hardy seems to have imported this range, are we saying it was Empoli region - the 'Italian Art Glass' on label would support this.

Does this put Alrose out of the picture - or would they have imported as well.

Then there is the foil label on the decanter at one of my dealers - I will go and take a photograph of it and that label - it is definitely part of the range, same base and spiral moulding with white stopper.

OK so we could be dealing with one Empoli maker and many importers or similar Empoli makers (sometimes the many factories made very similar items - though these do all seem finished in same way to me) with their own importers.

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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2006, 06:26:27 PM »
Hi

I have been to my local dealer and he let me photo a few of these vases – he has many more.

This is my original vase with G Hardy ‘Italian Art Glass’ label in blue and gold.



Here is a group of same 20” high vases in other colour ways – same finishing to base (there is also a deep green and olive shade).



This is a decanter tall, I am sure that it is of the manufacturer – base is the same. Label to bottom in red and gold is an importer label other than G Hardy - however, note the clear glass showing betwen the stripes.



This is a cylindrical vase in olive – I think it was about 16” high.



This vase was seen on eBay I think – it is a lovely form and colour.



This is a stemmed vase – over 20” I think with ribbed moulding.



I would like to extend my thanks to Stephen at Relics, Glasgow for allowing me to take the photos.


Thanks

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