Topic: archer w/dog vase intaglio/etched/engraved? all three?

[azelismia]

This piece may or may not be sick. I am working on cleaning it now. It was absolutely filthy when I got it. There are two spots with very old tape residue. This piece was a devil to get clean pics of. Some of the cutting is very deep and some of it is not. the back of it has engraved or etched leaves and grapes and the rim has the same, but the archer and dog seem to be cut far more deeply than that. no markings that I could find. anyone have any ideas of origin on this one? it's about 15 inches tall. because of how hard this was to photograph, I found the best way to show the detail was to take pictures from teh backside of the vase so some of the pics will be magnified in what the archer really looks like. the pics are of course clickable. the pics are pretty huge.

[Frank]

Presumably Apollo.

[dirk.]

rather diana, i´d say. as goddess of hunting she´s
usually shown with bow and dog.

[Frank]

I thought that at first too, but think it is male. Apollo was a bowman and Diana's twin.

[dirk.]

it looks like female dressing and hair-do to me, though her
secondary sexual characteristics are not too much accented.
apollo would wear some kind of breast-shield rather than
anything waisted, wouldn´t he?  :huh:

[azelismia]

I was going under the assumption it was a male but the clothing does look female when you go back and look at the pictures of the mythos. I vote for Artemis

[azelismia]

no opinions on who might have made this?

[Frank]

France or Bohemia maybe.

[krsilber]

Wow, what a great piece!  Where did you find it? 

My vote is Diana/Artemis, definitely. 

It's intaglio engraved.  I don't see any etched areas, and would be surprised if there were any.

Czech/Bohemian is my guess.  The Bohemians seem to have an affinity for mythological images in their engravings.  The shape of the blank is right, too.  Kind of reminds me of this tumbler, if only because of the subject matter:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=330230350505

Is there water in it?  Ordinarily I wouldn't expect much distortion or magnification, although taking close photos can have that effect.

I tried the rice trick for the first time a couple weeks ago, where you put a bit of water and some raw rice (and cleaner, if desired) in the glass and swirl it around vigorously.  It worked surprisingly well.  Maybe you've tried that already.  Good luck getting it clean, and I hope it's not sick.  It seems like Bohemian glass isn't as prone to crizzling as some others.

[azelismia]

yeah It's wet. I was trying to clean it. and noticed I had better luck getting the details on photo with water. I actually have this great product you should look for. it's a decanter and bottle washing kit from brushtech. it's got a funnel and steel balls. I got it when I was in the procurement dept at Sur La Table. it was a sample but we might have sold it. Pretty sure williams and sonoma would carry that too.

http://www.amazon.com/Decanter-Bottle-Washing-Steel-Balls/dp/B000RK1UYS/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1223837466&sr=1-17

I got this vase on ebay last week.

thanks for the correct terminology. telling the difference between various types of cutting on glass is difficult for me. I think Bohemia is probably a fair guess for this. the back side with the grapes has that look.