Topic: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher

[Pinkspoons]

Picked this up today primarily because it had a partial label with the same logo as my part-set mentioned here:

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3511.msg27391.html#msg27391

So I was just wondering if the label relates to Carl Stölzle und Sohne, to whom Marcus attributed my amber set, or is it an export/retailers label?

[Pinkspoons]

Bit of a bump... I've exhausted my brain and my small glass library trying to track down this label/manufacturer, to no avail. *sigh*

I don't suppose anyone is able to chip in with a suggestion?

[Anne]

Nic, I don't know if it's helpful or not, but the colour of your pitcher looks very close to the colour of one of my trinket sets which is a known Libochovice pattern. The colour is one I've not noted elsewhere as yet, so it may be a clue. I've not added the pieces to the site yet, but the pot can be seen on the Czechoslovakia section page, bottom right: LINK

[Pinkspoons]

Oh yes, I see what you mean - that very delicate green with a slight hint of turquoise.

[Jindra8526]

It is engraved not simply pressed, cannot be Libochovice.

ME is not known label to me for post war Czechoslovakian glass, we shall wait for Mr. Sklo Union to judge.   

[Anne]

Jindrich, I didn't say it *was* Libochovice, I said the colour was close to a Libochovice piece so it may be a clue as to where (in the world) to look for a maker.

On the other hand, it could be a pressed pitcher with engraving by someone other than the maker.There are Chippendale (Davidson UK) pressed glass pieces which can be found with engraved patterns on them, so it's not unknown.

The label could be an importer rather than a manufacturer label, of course.

[Pinkspoons]

The pitcher is definitely blown and, I'm suspecting, possibly pre-war.

But, yes, identifying similar colours can sometimes help to pin down, or at least point to, countries of origin based on perhaps national trends and inter-factory copying.

I'm veering towards it being quite likely an importer's label - mainly because I've exhausted all the glassworks I know. 

I really should go back to the amber part-set and see if my greatly-improved camera and it's super-macro zoom can divine anything from the label residue that my old one could not - if I can remember where the glass is stored!

[dirk.]

But, yes, identifying similar colours can sometimes help to pin down, or at least point to, countries of origin based on perhaps national trends and inter-factory copying.

hi Nic!
here's a roemer glass with a very similar colour to your jug and a carafe with a (bit) similar cut. I've not been able to identify
them so far, but I think they both are from somewhere between Bavaria and Bohemia - so at least a further hint for your
assumption.
:sigh: not too helpful, is it? 

[Pinkspoons]

Oh, yes, I see what you mean - the design and style of cutting are fairly well matched on the decanter!

I found my pitcher in completely clear glass in a local antique shop the other day. Unfortunately there were no helpful labels stuck to it.

[Pinkspoons]

Just spotted a bowl in McConnell (fig.57, pg.72) with an identical flower and similar leaf pattern. He attributes it to 1950s-60s Franco-Belgian manufacture.