Topic: whitefriars ? id required

[Lustrousstone]

Did Walsh do such controlled bubbly stuff? The pontil mark looks over-large like their often do.

[aa]

I have a feeling that Ivo is probably thinking about non-English glass companies. Shock horror! The idea that foreigners could have made stuff like this. ROTFL (listening to Robin Williams on We are most Amused) Scandinavia.....Germany....Italy. 

[Bernard C]

Did Walsh do such controlled bubbly stuff?   ...

Christine — Not that I'm aware of, but then, as we probably only know about a fraction of their production, anything is possible.

Bernard C. 

[Ivo]

I could think of half a dozen possible makers!

Perhaps you might be generous enough to share your thoughts with the rest of us then. 

Hi Ivo,
It looks like the GAUNTLET has been thrown down then ( I have just been watching 'Merlin' on BBC 1 )

We currently have Webb,Royal Brierley and Stevens and Williams.......................
How about the other 3 ?

Regards, Patrick

I'm not listing those in order to avoid lengthy discussions. But Adam is right. Every European country had its own manufacturers who produced what was fashionable at the time. Many WF products are undistinguishable from similar products made elsewhere. Every year, on the trade fair, the commercial people of all these factories would walk around with their sketch books and note the trend for the following year. Whether it be nail moulds, red Selenium, cubes and spheres, ice cube surfaces, frosting or prunts - the trend was set by few and followed by many. Often the trend was set by Scandinavian factories; but it could equally be Empoli or Leerdam or WMF who was copied.  And therefore it is quite easy to make a list of factories who worked in the same style, used the same colours and shapes and are likely to have produced a close lookalike.

[krsilber]

What if we promise not to discuss it - then will you tell us?

[nigel benson]

We currently have Webb,Royal Brierley and Stevens and Williams.......................

Patrick, would you count Whitefriars and Powell as two companies? If so then you're correct in counting this as 3

it is "well known" amongst WF aficionados that a vase like this, or a very similar design, was also made by Webb

.....and outside W/f's circles too Leni

I'm getting hints of the appalling eBayworld habit of attributing anything unrecognised, unmarked, and handmade to Webb or Stevens & Williams.

Bernard, firstly this is because many of the techniques and patterns used by Powell/Whitefriars were made by those two companies - for reasons well outlined by Ivo. Secondly, isn't it good that those folks are at least trying to think outside the very limited 'Whitefriars' box?

Finally, my vote goes for Stevens & Williams........or............Webb

Nigel