Topic: ID query - Vasart ?

[tropdevin]

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The few fragments of cane in this weight suggest Vasart to me, but I don't think I have seen a spatter/scramble like this.  Any views?

Alan

[Frank]

Looks messy enough 

[Derek]

Hi Alan

Agreed on the cane fragment especially the orange/yellow/white on the edge at 3 o'clock in the main picture.

Also the pontil has been roughly ground away - typical of Vasart.

I too have not seen this sort of scramble but am doing some research

Best regards

Derek

[Derek]

Hi Alan

Definitely NOT a Vasart production item !

Derek

[incazzatonero]

I agree.
Defenatly not Vasart.
For me it is defenatly Murano.
Any change of nearer pictures/fotos.
Regards

[Derek]

Hi Lothar

I should perhaps have made my reply more clear.

I said it was not a Vasart production item - IE not a regular item that Vasart produced. However many of the canes look Vasart to me. So I suspect it is a trial or a frigger especially as the base is very typical  of a Vasart weight.

I have never seen a base like this in a Murano weight nor the greenish complex cane in the main picture at 3 o'clock and 1/2 way between the centre and the edge.

Anyone else have a view???

Best regards

Derek

[alexander]

I'd go with ***art    (I'm not that well versed with Vasart so I tend to get the non-Strath. weights confused 

Not Murano by any stretch.

[glasstrufflehunter]

Definitely not Murano. Murano bases are always very well finished and that black ground looks very Scottish to me. A lot of the colours in that weight look 'Strathearny' to me.

[incazzatonero]

Yes: I have to learn: not Murano.
I have been too quick with my "defenately".
Regards

[KevinH]

Hah! I forgot to leave a bid Had I bid, and won this one, I would have confirmed its UV reaction.

However, I am reasonably sure that it is from the same era as several others I have, which I put in the 1946-1955 Ysart Brothers (Vasart) period. My web page article on pre-56 Vasart weights has a section on basal features and shows a few with a similar "button pontil mark" as on the eBay one. Also, although not obvious from my images, some of my YB weights have a similar "rusting" around the pontil mark.

Another point is that I have only seen one other broadly similar "YB scramble" weight (or is it two, or three???), so although this eBay one was a bit on the "untidy" side, it was an interesting example from my viewpoint.